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    RBS Posts £2bn Loss Amid Bank Bonus Anger

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    Taxpayer-backed Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS.L - news) has announced a full year loss of nearly £2bn - further fuelling the debate about bankers' pay and bonuses.

    The bank, which is 82% owned by the state, posted a pre-tax loss of £766m for 2011 and a total loss of almost £2bn, which includes various accounting and tax charges.

    The bank said "several large one-off items" accounted for the loss, including a near-£1bn hit for mis-sold payment protection insurance compensation.

    Greek sovereign debt impairments and restructuring costs also played a part.

    The figure compares to total losses of £1.1bn in 2010.

    The bank will pay out £785m in bonuses to all its staff, with £390m going to RBS's 17,000 investment bankers.

    The average pay out to an investment banker will be £23,000, although some will get nothing and many of the awards will be much higher.

    The total bonus pool,In January, RBS former chief executive Fred Goodwin had his knighthood stripped over his role in the bank's near-collapse.

    RBS and its rivals have been hit by volatile financial markets, eurozone debt woes, weak consumer confidence at home and reforms to banking regulation and law, such as forcing banks to separate their retail and investment banking arms.

    Chancellor George Osborne supported the bank's move to reduce investment banker bonuses.

    He said: "The new management team at RBS are cleaning up the mess after the biggest bank bailout in history, just as the Government is cleaning up the system of bank regulation that failed so badly.

    "These results show that they are doing just that.

    "We have made clear that RBS should be a backmarker in the industry when it comes to pay, so it's right that bonuses at the investment bank are less than half what they were last year and less than a third of what they were in 2009.

    "But our main interest should be to get back as much money as possible for taxpayers and we must not let those that want to create an anti-business culture put that at risk."

    Deputy prime minister Nick Clegg told Sky News that RBS investment banker bonuses were "going in the right direction of travel."

    He added that he would "like to wave a magic wand" to sort out the UK's banking system, but it was "a long term programme" of making sure banks limit bonuses, pay greater taxes and lend more to businesses.

    RBS shares are worth around £20bn less today than when the bank was rescued by the Government.

    Despite a 40% rise in the share price in recent weeks, RBS needs shares, which are currently trading at about 28p, to rise to 50p before the taxpayer can break even.

    The Unite union reacted angrily to the bonus announcement, saying it was not being distributed evenly among the workforce.

    David Fleming, Unite national officer, said: "If RBS split the massive bonus pot it is awarding its investment bankers between the 60,000 average bank workers, they would have a real opportunity to pay their household bills and change the life of their family.

    "It beggars belief that this 82% taxpayer-backed institution is imposing a pay cut on its hard-working frontline staff, while continuing to pay the City bankers ridiculously large bonuses."

    Read more on bonuses

    :: RBS chairman Sir Philip Hampton claims in a Sky News documentary with Jeff Randall that the era of big banking bonuses is over

    :: A YouGov (LSE: YOU.L - news) poll for Sky News shows 75% of people believe that bosses at Britain's state-backed banks should not receive bonuses

     
    • J  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Just seen the Chief Exec on t.v. Despite the fact their loss has grown he says that is a success. Biggest shock is he said it without laughing. Jusy who do these arrogant gits think they are fooling? Presumably creating a bigger loss for the taxpayer warrants huge bonuses.
    • Jim  •  St Albans, England  •  3 months ago
      Shame on Cameron, he has the power but not the will to stop this pigs in the trough mentality.
    • rights outdo wrongs here  •  2 months ago
      Good news. But surely a fairer distribution of Bonuses is required? One Banker can buy a free 23,000 pounds car while many are struggling to pay off normal debts of Family Living.Where is the Logic here?
    • michaelh  •  3 months ago
      meanwhile our leader is getting stuck into those naughty fouf mouthed footy players. GOOD on you dave, get the big jobs sorted first
    • Moe Syszlak  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Pah! I'm tempted to call in the loan I gave them. Can I have my £45 mill back please ?
    • Glen M  •  Renfrew, Scotland  •  3 months ago
      Sick, sick, sick, what else is there to say?
      • Bert Nodules 3 months ago
        I trust you mean the stupid ignorant comments on here from people who have not taken the trouble to study the Annual Report themselves. What was the operating profit? What did the core business make? What caused the losses? If you can't answer any of those don't comment.
    • kevinm  •  Liverpool, England  •  3 months ago
      On the day Cameron talks up the business community and private sector, RBS rewards failure and losses with staff bonuses! How are these calculated? Perhaps its for hitting targets with paperclip audits or some other important task....it certainly had nothing to do with performance!
    • Sameer  •  Dubai, United Arab Emirates  •  2 months ago
      this good
    • Truth  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
      Says it all !!! This is a sad reflection of banking in the UK and a sad reflection of the Government. No justification will ever make this right it is a disgrace and everyone should b ashamed
    • Andy  •  Singapore, Singapore  •  3 months ago
      Loss of £1 billion.
      Bonus pool of £800 million.
      Cancel the bonuses and it's almost breakeven.
      • EDWARD 3 months ago
        We will all sit at out pc's going mad over this, when we go out people will be talking about what a disgrace it is, our friend at work will talking about it, and what do we do about it? Nothing. I'm happy to say that last year i changed my mortgage from RSB to another company. I did it because i dont like the fact that they pay out huge bonuses after we bailed them out!
      • stewart 3 months ago
        Too right mate, wish I could just get even 5% bonus on top of my modest yearly earnings and I'd be feeling like a very rich guy
      • Tel 3 months ago
        Simples Sergei!
    • maxine l  •  Brighton, England  •  3 months ago
      Fat cats looking after fat cats, lost money but payout big bonuses. Shame on all of them!!!!!
    • John N  •  Madrid, Spain  •  3 months ago
      Bankers rewarded for failure to do their job properly it would seem - and there are so many people living below the poverty level
      • Bert Nodules 3 months ago
        So £6 billion profit was failure? Are you all totally mad?
    • Grant  •  Hounslow, England  •  3 months ago
      We need good, honest people to dig us out of the mess that was so, left; the 'Board' surely has some part in that mess? Why is it that only the CEO has to forego his bonuses?? We, the taxpayer now controls this operation, yes? so, are we getting a dividend on the shares we hold? I guess we are not! Given this 'culture' of being rewarded for failure, where do we stand in all of this? Should we have let this bank 'go to the wall'?
      I do not think 'bonuses' should be awarded given that these people would be unemployed right now if it wasn't for us, the taxpayer!
      • Michael F 3 months ago
        The problem with letting the banks go to the wall as I see it is that all the little savers and those whose salaries are paid into RBS would lose the lot as happened in the 1930s. That would explain why my father in law who was in business did not have a bank account and always dealt in cash only, I did not understand at the time but do now.
        The best solution if we had to Nationalise it would have been to hand it to the Civil Service who would really have put the brakes on.
        Under Civil Service rules EVERYTHING wouldhavve to be accounted for
    • margaret  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
      There is one easy answer folks all go to RBS and withdraw your savings then we will get
      rid of these banking vultures at RBS for good. Lose 2 million of taxpayers money and then pay yourself a bonus are they all crazy or what?
    • spanner  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      According to Robert Peston on the BBC this morning the RBS investment banking staff got a substantial pay rise last year (avge 29% he said). Was that to mitigate the cut in their bonuses?
    • David  •  Birmingham, England  •  3 months ago
      Just not good enough. There should not be a single bonus paid at RBS and salaries should be shifted down as well. You should only get a bonus (a realistic one at that) if you do something truly exceptional and they have not !
    • colin  •  Edinburgh, Scotland  •  3 months ago
      someone should be JAILED for allowing these payments to happen while the bail out money is still to be repayed.i am disgusted
    • Barney Rubble  •  Exeter, England  •  3 months ago
      My industry is not paying a cost of living award let alone a bonus and we are making a profit, how can a company who is making a loss pay bonus's and pay rises for a such a poor performance. This is poor management and we are paying for this load of nonesence.
    • Russell  •  Southampton, England  •  3 months ago
      i hope they crash and burn.. nothing more than they deserve ! as a former employee of 12 years - i know just how greedy, underhanded and evil they are to work for !!!
    • ramsaidh  •  Milton Keynes, England  •  3 months ago
      if i was a boss of a company that payed a bonus and then made a big loss and then told the workforce forget eny pay rise iv;e got to pay the senior staff a large bonus i think i would be hung drawn and quartered