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    RBS Boss Defends £800m Bonuses After £2bn Loss

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    The chief executive of RBS (LSE: RBS.L - news) has launched a robust defence of the £800m bonus pool paid out by the taxpayer-backed bank amid £2bn of losses.

    In an interview with Sky News business presenter Jeff Randall, Stephen Hester said bonuses for 2011 had been reduced to reflect the bank's performance.

    "We believe in pay for performance and that's exactly what we practise," he said.

    The total bonus pool has been reduced by 43% while bonuses in the investment banking arm, where year-on-year profits were down by about 50%, have been reduced by 58%.

    Mr Hester said it was "quite right" that bonuses had been reduced to reflect performance.

    But he said the remaining bonus levels were justified because the bank's overall performance last year had been "strong".

    His comments came on the day that RBS announced its full-year results, posting overall losses of £2bn.

    It is the fourth consecutive year of losses at the bank, which is 82% owned by the Government and has been at the centre of a recent furore over pay and bonuses.

    Last month, Mr Hester waived his own bonus of £930,000 for this year following the political and public backlash. 

    Mr Hester explained that last year RBS made £6.1bn of profits in its core banking business - similar to those made by rival Barclays (LSE: BARC.L - news) - but his bank was dragged down by "the biggest timebomb on a balance sheet ever in history - the RBS legacy".

    RBS was given a £45bn bailout by the taxpayer during the height of the financial crisis, rescuing it from collapse.

    Fred Goodwin, recently stripped of his knighthood, was in charge at the time.

    Mr Hester said the bank's current leadership had reduced RBS's debts by £700bn over the last three years - a sum that is twice the size of the debt of embattled Greece - but that involved bringing forward losses to reduce risk.

    In further defence of the bonus payouts, he said the investment banking arm had made £11bn of profits over the last three years - "profits that if we didn't have, the taxpayer would have to put their hand in their pocket for another £11bn for RBS".

    Mr Hester added: "It's important that we have good people making progress with these banks, both taking away legacy losses and creating profits that once we have paid for the legacy losses will drive the share price in the future."

    Despite a recent increase in the RBS share price, stocks remain well below what the Government paid for them in 2008, making the prospect of taxpayers breaking even as remote as possible.

    Sky's Jeff Randall said RBS' share price was the "most uncomfortable element" for Mr Hester since it is the "City's running commentary on how you are doing".

    RBS shares were worth about 9p each when Mr Hester took over from Mr Goodwin at the bank, and while they rose to about 55p a couple of years ago they have since gone down to around the 22p mark - leaving the taxpayer with a £20bn shortfall.

    Randall added: "Many people - taxpayers - will ask, quite properly, how it is if we are losing all this money we are still paying bonuses?"

    Prime Minister David Cameron, who was accused of stoking an anti-business climate during the row over Mr Hester's bonus, said he was content with the bonuses being paid to RBS staff this year.

    He said RBS had rightly become the "back marker" when it came to bankers' pay.

    On Thursday, Mr Cameron gave a speech to the Business in the Community charity warning against hostility towards UK businesses and calling for responsible capitalism.

    He said: "Today business needs champions, more than ever. In recent months we've heard some dangerous rhetoric creep into our national debate that wealth creation is somehow anti-social, that people in business are out for themselves.

    "We have got to fight this mood with all we've got.

    "Not just because it's wrong for our economy, because we need growth and jobs but because it's wrong for our society."

     

    36 comments

    • JOHN  •  3 months ago
      Indefensible.....RBS as a whole must make good profits, pay shareholders a good dividend and then maybe.... just maybe pay the very best performers a small bonus. The investment arm of this bank is a disgraceful failure........city boneheads again.
    • ANTHONY  •  Birmingham, England  •  3 months ago
      So, he thinks that a £2Billion loss is a strong performance!!! On what planet does this fool live?
      • mr me 3 months ago
        I think you will find it is called planet Cameron
      • Enlightenedview 3 months ago
        These brazen shameless creatures should be kicked out of this planets. The problem is that there are quite a few of these creatures infecting British corporate world. If they cannot be kicked out, they should be subjected to extermination.
    • David  •  Birmingham, England  •  3 months ago
      Sorry, but they should not need bonuses to do a good job. If they do something truly exceptional then we might give them a small bonus, emphasis on SMALL. If they don't do a good job, then they face discipline - just like everybody else.
      • myview 3 months ago
        Would you call this EQUALITY for all David? I would it's how I'm assessed at my Performance Reviews. Well said!
    • frankobserver  •  3 months ago
      Hester implies that, but for the special talent at RBS, things would be worse. He implies they are the best; we get the same from King at the MPC, in that, things would have been worse if they had done their job (of controlling inflation). Men of little substance, always finding excuses for their poor performance.
      • myview 3 months ago
        Doesn't it always make you laugh when people say "it would have been worse if I hadn't been here?" How could they know that? The worst excuse anyone could use for failure! :)
      • Graham 3 months ago
        Give it a rest frank, all you want is high interest rates to subsidise your small pension, grow up son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • PDC  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Cameron better do something about these idiots, because they are parasites, bullsh#ting parasites. Remember cameron you serve me. So get it done.
    • M  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      There should be no bonuses paid to ANY management level employees of banks under state ownership or in receipt of state bail-out funds where there is a loss incurred on the year's trading. Indeed, there should be no bonuses paid whilst banks are in receipt of QE funding whatever their profits/loss accounts say. £325 billion has been given tot he banking community, in addition to bail out funds, and even Mervyn King concedes that none of this money is evident within the British economy. The Americans put money directly into creating jobs and two years later, they have the lowest unemployment in 15 years, in the UK, we put money into banks and have the highest unemployment on record, something is SERIOUSLY WRONG here.

      The Government refuses to fund job creation and prefers to fund the criminals and thieves in the banking system. Bankers ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED, they are liars, thieves and taking everyone for a ride YET AGAIN, and caning the British public for being so generous as to fund them continually.

      Cameron should fire Vince Cable for not creating jobs, along with Chris Grayling who is complicit in keeping 2.7 million people out of work with the DWP's inaction and use of A4E and their fraudulent activities, not to mention Emma Harrison's bare faced profiteering off the plight of those seeking paid work that simply does not exist. The Government has failed to get a grip on the problem when in fact the solutions are easy, obvious and could be implemented with a minimum of fuss. Banks should be barred form the decision making process on who gets government job creation loans and told what they will receive as a fee for servicing new business accounts. If they don't like it, the Government can easily set up a banking structure it controls to manage busines creation loans, funds, and the necessary bank accounts also creating some jobs for qualified bank staff seeking work. Lets see the bankers grinning then as they face some real competition and a government who then pulls their loans and foreclses on RBS and Lloyds TSB.
      • A Yahoo! user 3 months ago
        its called nationalisation,allthe mugs were talked out of that 30 years ago by thatchers spivs and here we are with the results......:)
    • Joe  •  3 months ago
      They think we are as stupid as the government.We know they gave themselves a 29% increase last year in case they had to reduce the bonuses.Why would he think they deserve a bonus for making a loss.We must stop these obscene wages and bonuses .The greed and selfish culture should look round at the damage they are causing to peoples lives.
    • ANDREW  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      OK with that Idea should we all decide to go on strike untill we get the same even though the companies we work for have made a loss........obviuosley not
    • Michael  •  3 months ago
      im going to the bank tomorrow to ask for a job and will promise to loose £10000 for them if they give me a job
    • patrick p  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      On the day that all local government workers get told 'pay freeze for a third year' , one begins to wonder what planet these bankers live on who feel they deserve a bonus on top of their large salary.
    • Enlightenedview  •  Hounslow, England  •  3 months ago
      An open letter to Mr Hester:
      Dear Mr Hester, can you tell me whether the RBS staff get salary from the bank? If so, why their salary is paid for? Is it not for doing the job they are contracted to do? If your head has become clogged up with your greed and selfishness, let me tell you that a salary is paid to do the job as best as one can. If not, he or she risks being dismissed from the job. It is definitely not that he or she will do 30% of work for the salary and the remaining 70% he or she will for the bonus.
      You and quite a few commentators compared this year's bonus with last year's and tried to justify by saying that this year's bonus had been reduced from last year's. If you rob two banks last year, does that mean that robbing one bank this year is quite acceptable?
      Another justification you tend to put forward is that you need to reward the talent. Are you saying that all these failing banks have all the talents in the world and the PM, Ministers, MPs, University Professors and so forth do not have talents and hence they do not deserve bonuses? Think hard before you dare to answer.
      This bonus culture is, in fact, a cancer of the society. The sooner it is rooted out from the British corporate culture, the better it is for every body.
    • ANDREW  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Net Immigration up!!! Government have failed. Business going to wall!!! government t failed, High Street becoming like ghost towns!!! Government failed, unemployment at highest levels since 70's Government have failed. NHS ? lets hope they don't fail... So what have they succeeded in doing ah yeah... making sure there city friends are still stuffing their pockets GOVERNMENT TOTAL SUCCESS, There is not a snobbery against business CAMERON, Listen to the EX CEO of Greggs
    • WILLIAM  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
      The losses reflect poor performance by RBS and the goverment should review the situation without delay. Many of the senior employees already receive immorally high levels of income and they should not receive any bonuses. However, there will be poorly paid employees whose basic income is maintained at a low level to promore active selling and they rely upon bonuses to survive.The senior staff kick backsides whilst the ordinary staff invariably work their socks off.
    • Keith  •  St Albans, England  •  3 months ago
      Such flouting of the use of public money is more than a scandal, it is downright criminal and all that the government can say is the amount is less - clearly this government has no respect for the general public or the momey it uses from each of us. When the next election arrives lets us all remember this and ensure these people are taken out of power. Trouble with that is, they will then get jobs working for the banks and get large bonuses for failing! So very sad but true.
    • frankobserver  •  3 months ago
      Hester implies that anyone who grumbles about these bonuses "stigmatises success" in business - how absurd. This shows the contempt he has for the British people. No-one objects to good, intelligent business people creating wealth and jobs through caring capitalism.

      But most of the public do object to greedy, undeserving and incompetent people making large sums at the taxpayers expense. This is fundamentally wrong. David Cameron please take note too. There is a difference between rewarding real success and rewarding total failure. The latter is wrong and shame on those who seek to defend it.
    • Tom  •  Willenhall, England  •  3 months ago
      l just can not see how in this world can some get a bonus and still make a loss.All in the company should wait for a bonus the same as l a share holder,till the company is free of the goverments money they owe.The RBS has not sent me a bonus for leaving my cash in the shares or my accounts so the bank can make money, with out that they could do nothing.P.S.for my savings l do not call 0.01% a bonus,shares went down from £15,000 to about £120 yet the bosses think they are wonderfull, without my tax cash they would be in China.
    • ROY  •  3 months ago
      Given the hysteria stories that the banks could go bust ,then why on earth are they allowed to give money away on bonuses.
      The excuse that they have recovered does not wash.
    • David  •  Camberley, England  •  3 months ago
      This evens happens in the NHS. A friend of mine (CE of a large NHS Trust on the south cost) has twice been awarded above inflation rises by his own board even though he's already on a whack. He once openly boasted to me about how they increased his salary in advance of a pay freeze they were bringing in. It's simple greed amongst the wealthy and needs input from the 'normal' worker to bring about control.
    • Michael  •  3 months ago
      im going to the bank tomorrow to ask for a job and will promise to loose £10000 for them if they give me a job
    • LINDA  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Reduced bonus!!!! I should say not. It is obscene that anyone gets any bonus for any losses. How can these fat cats sleep at night when so many other people are losing their jobs and homes and are struggling to feed their families. DISGUSTING FAT CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!