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‘You’re completely chaotic’: This young Kansas couple makes $112,000 and has low debt — but still managed to hit bottom. Dave Ramsey says there’s only one explanation

‘You’re completely chaotic’: This young Kansas couple makes $112,000 and has low debt — but still managed to hit bottom. Dave Ramsey says there’s only one explanation
‘You’re completely chaotic’: This young Kansas couple makes $112,000 and has low debt — but still managed to hit bottom. Dave Ramsey says there’s only one explanation

Financial problems often stem from low income or high debt. However, some people simply suffer from bad planning.

Kansas-based Cole says he and his wife make a combined income of $112,000 but are struggling to get by. He says he forgot some bills, and an unexpected medical emergency for his son put his account into overdraft.

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“After that I’m just trying to play catch-up,” he said on an episode of The Ramsey Show. “It’s just been one thing after another.”

However, after digging into his finances, Dave Ramsey became convinced Cole’s problem wasn't debt but bad planning.

“You’re completely chaotic and disorganized to the point that you’re out of control,” he told Cole. “That’s the only explanation because there’s nothing glaring in these numbers.”

Here’s why the finance guru believes a simple budget is all the couple needs to change their situation.

Safe on paper

Cole and his wife have borrowed money in a few ways, but none of their debts are extreme.

The hospital payment plan is a $222 monthly payment. Their outstanding credit card balances total $14,000. They owe $10,700 in auto loans on two cars, one of which was due to be sold. Cole’s wife has $30,000 in student loan debt, while their house has a mortgage of $102,000.

None of these amounts is above average. As of the third quarter of 2023, the average loan amount for a new vehicle is $40,184, while a used car has an average loan of $27,167, according to Experian.

The average mortgage balance per household was $241,815 in the second quarter, while the average federal student loan balance is $37,718, according to the most recent figures from the Education Data Initiative.

Meanwhile, Cole and his wife earn a solid income, with Ramsey pointing out “$112,000 is no slouch in Wichita, Kansas, dude.”

On paper, the couple’s debt should be easily manageable. However, Cole claimed they’re falling behind on payments at a rate that going into overdraft seemed “inevitable at this point.”

“You guys must be some of the most disorganized, completely chaotic people that I've run into in a while,” Ramsey said. Fortunately, he saw an easy path out of this mess.

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Four strong walls

Ramsey encouraged Cole to prioritize spending on essential items first. The couple need to spend on food, utilities, housing, cars and fuel before they consider anything else. It’s a budgeting strategy Ramsey calls the “four walls.”

“You take care of the four walls of your house,” he said. “The necessities of life: food, shelter, clothing, transportation, utilities, gas in the car, and everything else can wait.”

Based on these priorities, creating a robust budget shouldn’t take longer than an hour and a half, Ramsey estimated.

“You’re going to turn around so fast!” he said.

The simple takeaway from Cole’s predicament is that budgeting is a powerful tool that’s too often overlooked. A survey by Credit.com found that 27% of Americans don’t think a budget is necessary, while 24% believe they won’t stick to a budget even if they had one.

Fundamentally, a budget requires people to actually be aware of what they make, what they spend, and have a plan to reconcile the two. For something as important as a family’s finances, playing fast and loose can land you in trouble for no good reason.

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