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Conduent Incorporated (CNDT) Q1 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

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Conduent Incorporated (NYSE: CNDT)
Q1 2019 Earnings Call
May. 8, 2019, 5:00 p.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks

  • Questions and Answers

  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Conduent First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. (Operator Instructions) Please also note, today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Alan Katz, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.

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Alan Katz -- Vice President of Investor Relations

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Conduent's First Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. Joining me on today's call is Ashok Vemuri, Conduent's CEO; and Brian Walsh, Conduent CFO. Following our prepared remarks, we will take your questions. This call is also being webcast. A copy of the slides used during this call was filed with the SEC this afternoon. These slides as well as the detailed financial metrics sheet are available for download on the Investor Relations section of the Conduent website. We will also post the transcript later this week.

During this call, Conduent executives may make comments that contain certain forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that by their nature address matters that are in the future and are uncertain. These statements reflect management's current beliefs, assumptions and expectations as of today, May 8, 2019, and are subject to a number of factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. Information concerning these factors is included in Conduent's Annual Report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC.

We do not intend to update these forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events or developments except as required by law. The information presented today includes non-GAAP financial measures. Because these measures are not calculated in accordance with US GAAP, they should be viewed in addition to and not as a substitute for the company's reported results prepared in accordance with US GAAP.

For more information regarding definitions of our non-GAAP measures and how we use them, as well as limitations as to their usefulness for comparative purposes, please see our press release, which was issued this afternoon and was furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K.

With that, I will turn the call over to Ashok for his prepared remarks. Ashok?

Ashok Vemuri -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Alan, and good evening, everyone. Before we get into the earnings discussion, I want to comment on the announcement we made regarding the leadership transition. As many of you would have seen we announced that I intend to step down as CEO and as a member of the Board of Directors once a CEO successor has been made . I'm committed to a quarterly transition and will continue in my current post until a successor is appointed, which the Board expects throughout the -- during the third quarter of 2019. It has been my privilege to lead as the best CEO of Conduent.

We have made enormous progress, standing up as public company, driving a significant transformation program in a relatively short period of time, laying the foundation to become a digital interactions company and resolving the legacy issues we had. I am proud of these achievements. As Conduent enters its next phase and continues to pivot to growth this is the right time to begin the transition to the next CEO. It is an honor to leave the best team in the industry. I want to thank the Board and all Conduent employees for their support during these transformative changes. We will continue to be the driver of the company's success going forward and we'll continues to work with them and the Board during this period to ensure a seamless transition . In terms of the first quarter results came in below our expectations, primarily due to an unanticipated and sudden in-quarter volume dropped from one of our larger client and lower than anticipated new business timings and revenue conversion.

This lower revenue in turn impacted adjusted EBITDA. However, this is partially offset by continued productivity improvements automation and accu-shoring allowing us to achieve year-over-year margin expansion in the quarter. Brian will get into more detail on the quarter in his prepared remarks.

The team has made an incredible amount of progress in the last two years. Conduent is in a strong place having a foundational improvement such as improving the cost structure of the company, reducing leverage down 1.7 tons, embarking on product and technology infrastructure modernization leading to 80% of the business now are delivered over technology platforms. Improving efficiency and productivity of operations and client delivery through automation and accu-shoring securing in above 90% clients deals renewal rate for the seventh straight quarter achieving a book to bill ratio of about one and closing our first acquisition.

This foundational improvement along with a share volume of scalable, secure mission critical digital transaction that we complete every day positions Conduent into pivot to growth.These are payment interactions, experience interactions and digital interactions. The demanding and sophisticated clients we work with and their continuing loyalty, the longevity of our relationship has a deep industry knowledge of our experienced team members create the market opportunity for us.

The team expects to take advantage of this opportunity by executing on the strategy that was approved by the Board last year and leveraging our core competency, both existing capabilities and newly developed go-to-market solutions. We are utilizing our knowledge base to become a smarter company in the eyes of our client leveraging our talent base to maximize the human capital and investing to enable growth.

With that, Brian will take us through the financials on operational efficiency initiatives and the outlook for the business. Brian?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you Ashok. I'll going through financials and we'll conclude with some thoughts on our market positioning and opportunities for the future.

Throughout this presentation and in the exhibits and the appendix we will provide both GAAP and adjusted numbers, which provide a clean compare by removing the impact of the divestitures that we completed in 2018 and this past quarter. Now let's start on Slide 3 with an overview of the first quarter financial results. I won't go through the walk the full P&L, we will instead focus on a few key line items. Revenue was approximately $1.16 billion for the quarter as reported or $1.12 billion after adjusting for the divestiture of a select portfolio of customer care contracts down 4.3%,year-over-year.

On a constant currency basis, revenue was down 3.5% year-over-year, primarily driven by the run-off business we lost in prior quarters and strategic decisions, partially offset by the ramp of new business. SG&A continued to improve year-over-year, driven by our cost savings initiatives, as well as trend in our sales force. When excluding the impact of divestitures, adjusted EBITDA in the quarter increased 1.7% year-over-year to $122 million with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 10.9% or 70 basis point improvement.

While revenue pressure led to adjusted EBITDA being lower than expectations, we made progress on our transformation program and as a result continue to show margin improvement. Given the timing of addressing stranded costs, our adjusted EBITDA margin profile is expected to be up meaningfully in the back half of the year. Our pre-tax loss in the first quarter was $338 million, driven primarily by a goodwill impairment.

As I'll discuss in a few slides, we have lowered our outlook for the full-year and as a result, evaluated the goodwill and carrying values of all our reporting units. As reported in our 10-K, our transportation business had the least amount of excess carrying value as of December 31, 2018 and due to the loss of customer contracts, lower than expected new business, as well as higher cost of delivery, this segment was found to be below its carrying value as of March 31 2019, resulting in the impairment.

Adjusted net income was $32 million and adjusted EPS was $0.14, down from $47 million and $0.22 in Q1 2018. The decline was primarily driven by divested businesses.

Turning to Slide 4, let's go through our segments. As we did last quarter, we have included a summary slide detailing the financial performance of all of the segments and have included the shared IT and infrastructure in corporate cost line. As reported, our commercial business revenue declined 6.4% driven primarily by lower client volume and strategic actions. Adjusted EBITDA was down 2.2% as a result of lower revenue, while adjusted EBITDA margin grew 96 basis points year-over-year from Q1 2018 due to our transformation. Our government business declined 3% for the quarter and adjusted EBITDA declined 17.4% driven by pricing pressure, loss business and higher IT costs. A note on our government business, in 2018 we were notified that we are not the preferred bidder for the renewal of the legacy California MMIS contract. And in Q1, we decided to no longer protest this decision. While this is one of our larger contracts and will impact revenue from an adjusted EBITDA perspective, it is a minimally profitable contract. The contract ends at the end of Q3 2019, but the exact wind down timing is still being determined. Once we have that detail we will incorporate this loss into a renewal rate.

Our transportation segment revenue grew 4.5% for the quarter compared with Q1 2018 driven by new business ramp. However, adjusted EBITDA was down 17.1% driven primarily by penalties and higher IT and delivery costs. Looking at other, I'll remind you that revenue in the first quarter from the select stand-alone customer care contracts has been backed out of these numbers. The remaining revenue and loss is primarily associated with the student loan business, which continues to be in the final stages of run-off.

As we discussed last quarter, we have broken out our shared IT and infrastructure in corporate costs. In the first quarter these costs were $137 million, 17.5% lower than the prior year driven by cost transformation and a negotiated settlement with one of our IT infrastructure vendors. We have made meaningful progress on these costs through our transformation initiative and we expect to continue to show year-over-year progress throughout the year, although likely not at the same rate. This improvement in our cost structure offset the adjusted EBITDA decline in the segments leading to adjusted EBITDA growth in the quarter. Later, I will discuss in more detail the work we have done to improve operational efficiencies and the opportunities we still see in 2019. Let's move on to our cash flow for the first quarter.

Slide 5 provides an overview of the cash flow for the quarter. The operating cash outflow of $49 million in Q1 2019 was primarily driven by the payment associated with the Texas settlement and other working capital. We improved DSO by tow days in Q1 and we'll continue to focus on this important metric in 2019. CapEx was $70 million in the quarter, an increase of $31 million compared with the prior year, largely driven by our IT investments.

Adjusted free cash flow was an outflow of $93 million in the quarter given the timing of CapEx and typical seasonality of our business, we continue to expect to see free cash flow weighted toward the back half of the year as we saw in both 2017 and 2018.

Turning to Slide 6, let's go through the updates in our capital structure. We ended the quarter with a healthy balance sheet. At the end of Q1 2019, our cash balance was $528 million. Our current net leverage ratio is 1.7 turns. As we recently announced, we entered into amendment to our Texas settlement. Prior to the amendment we made a payment of $20 million in April and $20 million in Q1. Under the amendment we expect to make a payment of approximately $78 million this month. Additionally, we plan to make a payment of approximately $180 million in January of 2020, at which point we would have paid the settlement in full.

Turning to Slide 7. Let's discuss our ongoing transformation program. We showed continued progress in our Accu-shoring initiative with 52% of our employees now located in low cost countries. Utilizing lower cost labor markets is key to improving our delivery model while being competitive on price. Another area of focus has been third-party spend.

Over the past year, we've continued to drive savings through the consolidation of our supplier base, we're building strategic partnerships that better serve our internal and external customers. We're leveraging our buying power to pursue pricing negotiations, while our development of strategic supplier relationships drives down the time it takes to engage in services that add value to the customers. Automation and efficiency programs are being leveraged for both delivery and internal use. We have launched spots to complete certain simple, repeatable tasks and are investing to make better use of other automation tools and systems to create efficiency and our support function and client facing delivery. As we invest in improving our tech infrastructure, we should also see increased operational efficiencies, as well as a more stable and secure network.

Lastly, we continue to see meaningful opportunity to address our stranded costs as a result of the divestitures that were completed over the past year. We are making good progress on this front and while the majority of the cost takeout out, we'll be back-half weighted. We have a plan in place to action these costs. We have already taken some actions for Q2. In response to the revenue challenges that we see for 2019, we've also taken additional actions to improve operational efficiencies.

Turning to Slide 8, let's go through our updated 2019 guidance, which is based on our current forecast and plans. As we did in Q4, we have provided a walk from our 2018 reported results to our adjusted 2018 baseline, adjusting for the impact of divestitures, including the select stand-alone customer care contracts. Given the slower new business signings and increased variability in client volumes, we now expect reported revenue to be down between 3% and 4% on a constant currency basis in 2019.

Variability in client volume has been driven primarily by our large account in our commercial business. We have adjusted our range to account for potential further volume fluctuations. We expect full-year adjusted EBITDA margins to be between 12% and 13%, while we are addressing revenue we remain focused on margin improvement.

The updated outlook and adjusted EBITDA reflects the impact of the revenue decline and increased investments into the business. This guidance also does not include any contribution from additional acquisitions. Adjusted free cash flow is expected to be around 30% of adjusted EBITDA, which reflects elevated CapEx for the year. Despite the lower guidance, it's important to remember that we are well positioned in dynamic and growing markets, which create a strong foundation from which we can build.

I'm now on Slide 9. We have made meaningful progress in a number of fronts, including consolidating our commercial group under a single leader. Continuing our investment in technology, including both client-facing applications, as well as infrastructure modernization and increasing our capabilities in automation and analytics. We are streamlining the company to ensure that we are leveraging a global delivery model and have taken incremental actions to improve efficiency.

Sales remains a focus to ensure that we improve our revenue conversion from our stable and diversified pipeline. And lastly, we are addressing our headwinds by working with our large client to address the volume variability. We are well positioned from a market perspective. We believe that our investments are in the right areas and the entire management team is focused on driving value for all of our stakeholders. We will now open up the lines for some questions, operator?

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we'll begin the question-and-answer session.

(Operator Instructions) And our first question today comes from Shannon Cross from Cross Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Shannon Cross -- Cross Research -- Analyst

Thank you very much. Ashok, I'm not sure how many of these you can or will answer, but I thought I'd throw out some of the most obvious ones here. Can you give us more background on what precipitated you're leaving, specifically was there more disconnect with the Board beyond what was sort of laid out and Mike Netherlands letter, how are you going to be sort of working and operating Conduent since you're going to be leaving as soon as the next guy comes in or woman comes in? And what should we think about the potential for the company to be up for sale at this point? Thank you.

Ashok Vemuri -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Shannon. As we have been detailing over the last two years. Conduent has made significant progress since the separation by becoming a public company, driving transformation, laying the foundation to become a digital interactions company as well as to a great extent resolving the legacy issues that we inherited.

So clearly the foundation has been built. We've built a strong team. The depth and width of the markets we operate in, and a loyal client base builds on the strong foundation gives us the opportunity to leverage more business from the market. So I feel confident that the foundation is here the strategies in place, the strategy was approved by the Board last year, that continues to be the strategy that we will follow. There is clearly an opportunity to pivot to growth. And as we enter the next phase of transformation, the Board and I both thought that it was a good time to bring in new leadership -- new leader and for the CEO transition to become effective. I clearly believe in the strategy. I clearly believe in the -- my management team and the opportunities that are available for the company and I will assist in the transition in order to keep it as seamless as possible for my clients, for my employees and definitely for my management team, as well as he or she who succeeds me as the CEO.

Operator

Our next question comes from Bryan Bergin from Cowen, please go ahead with your question.

Bryan Bergin -- Cowen -- Analyst

Hi, thank you. I wanted to follow here on bookings. Just can you talk about what really change quarter-to-quarter, particularly around the new business signings. Is there a particular segments that we're showing outsize weakness or and can you comment, what do you think this is more a function of sales force productivity, the offering or anything macro related that you can point to?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So we had lower signings, pipeline conversion in Q1 and we had some large deals that fell out of the forecast. In one case, a large deal based on some M&A that one of our clients is involved and in other cases, it was other delays and that transpired late in the quarter. In addition, in my prepared remarks, I mentioned, we had some sales force churn. So we're very focused on building up the sales force and keeping it stable, but we did have some churn in Q1, as we pivot to platform and digital solutions. It's taking longer to convert the pipeline and some of our legacy issues that have been out in the press have also been causing some delays in a couple of cases. But we believe we're focused on all the right things to turn this around.

We're focused on converting the new business pipeline, stabilizing and investing in the sales force. We're continuing all our investments in our technology platforms and infrastructure. We are streamlining our go-to-market and operating model, including consolidating commercial under one leader, which gives us consistent sales process across commercial and we're executing on our strategic accretive acquisitions, as such as HSP, which we closed in the first quarter.

So we're confident this will lead to signings growth over time. But obviously in the first quarter we declined and we're focused on turning that around. And I would say in terms of a couple areas that are under more pressure, I would say government and transportation were under more pressure in Q1 than commercial.

Bryan Bergin -- Cowen -- Analyst

Okay, thanks for that. Can you clarify what your expectation is now for bookings for 2019 year-on-year?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

We're focused on driving new business signings growth, as we've consistently said to drive top line organic growth. We need double-digit new business signings on a amount of consistent basis. That's what we're driving for. But obviously in Q1 we didn't see that. I mean Q2 where -- we'll see how we perform. We're very focused. This is our number one priority is to convert the pipeline and to get new business signings moving in the right direction.

Bryan Bergin -- Cowen -- Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then my -- I have a follow up here on cost takeout, you mentioned additional actions being taken. Can you just detail how you're balancing those cuts to make up for the revenue shortfall versus the investments that are required to turn the business around to growth really? And then how should we be thinking about the margin levels as you walk through 2019?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. so we -- when we saw in March the visibility to some of the revenue challenges, we decided to take incremental cost actions, one, around suspending our 401-K match for a subset of our employees, two, we reduced our salary increase budget for the year and three, we took some incremental headcount actions to make sure we're still focused on improving the EBITDA margin for the company.

As you look at the guidance for the year, we're guiding at 12% to 13% EBITDA margin. That's a pretty wide range and we're doing that so we can balance, making the right investments and improving profitability as we focused on turning around the top line. And so that will be the focus. We're also executing the stranded cost takeout. We took actions in Q2 that will benefit us over the next three quarters and then by the end of the year we expect to get all the stranded costs out, so that's a focus.

If you look at CapEx, you can also see CapEx was high in Q1 as we make investments in our technology. And so we're maintaining investments and balancing cost with cost takeout, with investments, so we can turn that top line around.

Alan Katz -- Vice President of Investor Relations

Yeah, Brian, this is Alan, just in terms of timing and the quarterly impact, I would just note that the stranded cost, a lot of the actions will benefit the back half of the year, so the year-over-year improvement really picks up in the back half of the year as a result of those friendly costs coming out.

Bryan Bergin -- Cowen -- Analyst

Okay, thanks guys.

Operator

Our next question comes from Puneet Jain from JP Morgan, please go with your question.

Puneet Jain -- JP Morgan -- Analyst

Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Ashok could you share your thoughts on Conduent's current portfolio of business. Why it makes sense to provide services to both commercial as well as government clients? And if there are any assets that could be monetized to unlock shareholder value?

Ashok Vemuri -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Puneet, so clearly, I believe that on both the transportation and the government business that we do in the public sector as well as on the commercial side, there are significant synergies that can be exploited and leveraged. If you look at our HSP acquisition that is a classic case of capability that can be deployed on a technology platform on both the commercial as well as on the government healthcare side. And we have similar examples in transportation, where we are increasingly talking about public private partnership. We're talking about partnership for urban mobility etcetera. So I do really believe that the fact that we cover such a diverse market gives us the opportunity to cross and up-sell and bundle our various capabilities for better efficiency, for better price realization, and for a better competitive advantage. When we last -- I had said in 2018 that we were bringing our divestitures program to an end, clearly, those were the assets that we believe did not really fit into the broader stable of assets that we have.

We're obviously from a shareholder return perspective, we always look and explore every and any and every opportunity that's going to enhance that value.

Puneet Jain -- JP Morgan -- Analyst

Got it. thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from my Mayank Tandon from Needham & Company. Please go with your question.

Mayank Tandon -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

Thank you. Good evening. Brian, you did give us the insights into the guidance update. But could you provide a walk through from the 0.5% to 1.5% growth that you were targeting previously for '19 and now down to negative 3% to negative 4%. How much of that is organic? What are the inorganic contribution FX impact etcetera?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So first, the guidance that we provided on the Q4 call and now is at constant currency. So there is no currency impact and we also on the Q4 call we provided guidance we removed any incremental acquisitions. So this is all inorganic change and it's really driven by two items, one we saw pressure get volumes from one of our larger commercial clients which was sudden and unexpected in February and March.

We're working with the clients, we address the volume volatility, but this could impact other quarters. So we reflected that potential volatility in the updated guidance. And second the new business signings were down 39% in Q1, and again in order to drive organic growth we really need double-digit new business signings growth consistently and so it's really those two items that have led to the guidance change.

Mayank Tandon -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

Sure. Okay. And then if I can just tack on a question about the revenue trajectory, could you comment on one, why the large client decided to reduce volumes maybe some insights into what is going on with the client? And also, you referenced in your deck that there was loss business on the government side, as well is that the Californian contract you were referencing or is there another contract that is also impacting the government side of the business?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So in my prepared remarks I talked about the California on the last contract where we were notified in 2018 that we were not -- we did not win the renewal. I mean we are protesting that decision and in Q1, we decided not to protest it further. So that contract currently goes to the end of September. We believe we may get an extension to the end of the year, but we're not sure yet. Once we know the exact timing of when that contract will end, we will reflect that loss in our renewal rate. It's approximately $140 million in revenue, but it's very low EBITDA margin. So we don't expect much of a profit impact.

Mayank Tandon -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

And then any insight into why the large client decided to reduce volumes with you and maybe if you could comment on what type of business you were providing to the client?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

So it's a end-user support in our commercial business and we are working proactively with the client to try to address the volume issue. I mean, it wasn't a decision to take volume away, it's volume variability that they're experiencing.

Mayank Tandon -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Essex from Morgan Stanley, please go ahead with your question.

Brian Essex -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Hi, good afternoon, and thank you taking the question. Brian, I was wondering, if I just talked about, if you can just address the renewals for a little bit. It looks like just quick math renewals account for about 82% of your revenue run rate at the end of the year. So most of it relying on renewals. If -- could you maybe address -- I understand this is 92% renewal rate, but how that -- does that account for renewals as a percentage of original par value?

And maybe if we can -- if you could just address like how pricing on renewals is working out and how we should think about the support that has behind your revenue expectations for fiscal '19? And then I have a quick follow-up.

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

So the renewal rate is basically decisions made in the quarter. What did we win, what do we lose and it's calculated based on the deals we're chasing. So if there is a price down in that deal, it's not reflected in the renewal rate. Last year pricing was fairly consistent. We had some price increases and some price decreases that for the most part offset each other. This year we have one government price decrease that was pretty large that isn't being entirely offset.

Other than that the pricing commentary that we provided last year is consistent with what we are expecting this year.

Brian Essex -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Got it, and then maybe just you can touch real quick on the capital structure, how does the M&A pipeline look? Do you still maintain the same capital structure, just looking at where the stock price is kind of aftermarket here, maybe would you change your posture on repurchasing shares and essentially just want to understand, are there any changes in place or you have the same profile priorities and might you be more aggressive on the M&A side to kind of reinvigorate growth here?

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

So the Board along with us, we can continuously look at the capital structure. So far up to this point, our priorities have been investing into the business to drive organic growth and doing strategic tuck-in M&A to strengthen our offerings. And our view is that that should still be the focus, but we're obviously always looking at it and open to driving what makes sense for shareholder value. What makes the most sense for shareholder value.

And we continue to have a strong pipeline that we're working and obviously some multiples are high and we're staying disciplined. I mean we're pleased with the first acquisition that we closed in January. It's already making an impact to our pipeline and we believe it's strengthening our offerings as Ashok mentioned both in commercial healthcare and government healthcare. So we want to do more transactions that look like HSP.

Brian Essex -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Okay, that's helpful, thanks.

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen with that we reached the end of today's question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back to -- the conference call back over to Ashok Vemuri for any closing remarks.

Ashok Vemuri -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. As I have reiterated before, we believe that Conduent as it enters its next phase and continues to pivot the growth, this is the right time to begin the transition to the next CEO. I am committed to an orderly transition. I will continue in my current role until a successor is appointed. The Board is engaged and committed, and we have a sound strategy. And we believe that we have the right management team, and as well as a loyal client base that will allow us to realize this next transformation to pivot to growth. With that, thank you very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

Duration: 32 minutes

Call participants:

Alan Katz -- Vice President of Investor Relations

Ashok Vemuri -- Chief Executive Officer

Brian Webb-Walsh -- Chief Financial Officer

Shannon Cross -- Cross Research -- Analyst

Bryan Bergin -- Cowen -- Analyst

Puneet Jain -- JP Morgan -- Analyst

Mayank Tandon -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

Brian Essex -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

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