Q1 2024 Ufp Industries Inc Earnings Call

Participants

Dick Gauthier; VP, Communications & IR; Ufp Industries Inc

Matthew Missad; Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer; Ufp Industries Inc

Michael Cole; Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer; Ufp Industries Inc

Ketan Mamtora; Analyst; BMO Capital Markets

Stephan Guillaume; Analyst; Sidoti

Reuben Garner; Analyst; Benchmark

Kurt Yinger; Analyst; D.A. Davidson

Presentation

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Q1 2020 for USP. Industries Inc. earnings conference call. Participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer question. During the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message. Advising your hand is raised. You withdraw your question, press star one one. Today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Mr. Dick Garcia, Vice President of Investor Relations. You please go ahead.

Dick Gauthier

Yes.
Welcome to the First Quarter 2024 Conference Call for UFP Industries. Hosting the call today are CEO, Matt Missad, and CFO, Mike Cole. Matt and Mike will offer prepared remarks and then the call will be open for questions.
This conference call is available simultaneously in its entirety to all interested investors and news media through our webcast at USTI. dot com. A replay will also be available at that website.
Before I turn the call over to Matt Missad, let me remind you that today's press release and presentation include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the Company's expectations and projections. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, those factors identified in the press release and in the filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
I will now turn the call over to Matt Missad.

Matthew Missad

Thank you, Dick, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our first quarter 2024 investor call. The first quarter was generally in line with expectations, and I'm proud of our team for dealing well with the uncertainty and still delivering strong results. That said, it remains difficult to have clear insight into the balance of the year.
The conflicting economic indicators and forecasts by various economists have blurred the ability to make confident forecast. So rather than wait for Johnny Nash to bring some clarity. The UFP team will continue to execute our plan, and we will rely on our experience and our banner balanced business model to continue to improve. While Mike will review the financial details.
The overall picture includes net sales for the quarter of $1.64 billion and net earnings per share of $1.96. Net sales were down due to lower demand and a lower level of lumber market, while EPS was above expectations, aided by a nonrecurring tax benefit for the quarter due to the slower demand. We are executing plans to improve operating costs and to consolidate excess capacity in the short term, while still investing with optimism and strength in future growth and efficiency to implement our long-term vision. We will discuss some of those improvements in a few moments.
First, let's take a look at the segments. Retail Solutions has embedded app at value added manufacturer seller and self distributor. Our products provide solutions for the DIY. consumer as well as the professional contractor. Overall retail saw lower sales, but better bottom line results our Pro and Sunbelt unit saw unit declines in the quarter from strong unit volumes a year ago, and we expect the balance of the year to be in line with adjusted forecasts from both big box and large independents.
The Deckorators product line continues to grow with modest unit increases this quarter. Once again, Deckorators will be investing heavily in marketing to drive brand awareness and promote the industry leading and patented Sure stone technology, which we believe is the best composite substrate. And in addition to marketing, we have increased our new product development spend, which will enable us to use planned capacity increases to drive additional products using the SURE stone technology.
Ufp edge siding pattern and trim products added an additional third party distribution in the quarter, which we will, which we expect will drive more growth later in the year. The revised forecast for repair and remodel for the balance of 2024 indicates a year-over-year unit demand reduction in the mid-single digit range.
The various indices also predict a rebound in 2025 and 2026 business in the construction segment was strong led by increases in both the site-built and the factory-built business units, with mortgage rates steadily around the 7% to 7.35% range.
Growth expectations in site-built have been tempered somewhat, particularly in the multifamily sector, while starts in 2024 are projected to be slightly up to slightly down from the $1.413 million actual housing starts in 2023. February starts were well above that target. While March starts were below the annual target, some of the swings are attributable to different weather conditions in the markets year over year, but it does make predictions difficult.
Factory-built showed strong signs of improvement as unit sales increased and the team captured market share in the RV and cargo space we have recognized the need to grow this area faster and drive more sales of both OEM products and aftermarket products as part of our succession planning and to more quickly generate revenue from new products under the recreation brand.
Jonathan West, a highly talented and respected 30-year teammate, and the current Executive Vice President of factory bill will transition to the important new role as head of National Sales and innovation for factory-built beginning in the third quarter of 2024. Chad Easton, a 25 year veteran with outstanding relationships throughout the markets we serve will assume the executive vice president role of this business unit by September 30th. These changes underscore our commitment to be the best partner for our customers and to continue to drive more value add in our products and services.
In the Packaging segment, demand expectations have been muted. The expectations for the year have been tempered by higher for longer interest rates and the purchasing managers' index dropped below 50 in March, which would suggest continued softness in consumer demand for many of the runways. However, I am pleased with the team's ability to adjust to the market conditions and remain on offense to provide better results, and they have consistently evaluated capacity, internal cost and ability to create manufacturing efficiencies.
Our recent investments in automated equipment and operating changes, coupled with demand forecasts have enabled facilities to produce more in the same footprint. As a result, we plan to consolidate seven facilities by the end of Q3 with expected annual cost savings in 2025 estimated at $8 million. In addition, we are analyzing an additional four facilities and other product areas for possible consolidation or alternative paths to market by year end.
Balancing transportation costs and service to the customers are key considerations in the financial analysis for these locations with a clear path on the cost side, it is important to note that our sales teams are aggressively seeking new accounts while also protecting market share and increasing value added opportunities for our customers.
While there may be short-term economic challenges. The long-term outlook for UFP packaging remains very strong. We will continue to invest in automation, innovation and acquisition to advance our goal of becoming a global packaging solutions provider some items of interest in our focus areas and departments. Our new products, new product sales for the first quarter were $124 million. We enhanced the definition of new products to drive more value added products and services and set a target of$ 510 million for 2024.
It takes into account the expected lower level of the lumber market for lumber remit related products through the first quarter, we are on track to meet the annual target in the purchasing area with more capacity online and still more on the way no significant moves are expected in the level of the lumber market. We expect that the mills will manage the supply side by taking production off-line that less efficient mills to match market demand rather than to erode further erode their margins.
On the transportation side, transportation costs have become more competitive, albeit at a higher level, demand is lower for the transportation industry, while costs, including fuel and insurance have increased. So in spite of lower demand, finding qualified drivers still continues to be challenging.
On the human capital side, we continue to see quality applicants to help us grow and to strengthen our team. While the headline new three unemployment data seems low, the more accurate U6 unemployment rate for March was 7.4%, up from 7% at the end of December. An estimated 303,000 full and part-time jobs were added in March with more than half of those nonprofits and government, 39,000 were added in construction due in part to milder weather this year, jobs in manufacturing remained unchanged.
Compensation and benefits continued to climb as rising minimum wage rates drive all of their wage rates higher and fuel inflationary pressure as cost for goods and services rise. As counter to these increases, our incentive compensation plans automatically adjust to reflect pre-bonus operating profit when profits are down, incentives are reduced, which in turn encourages our team of high achievers to drive improvements faster.
On the capital allocation side, our capital plans centered on three areas, growth, investment in new products, technology in our future, and providing strong returns to our shareholders, whether via M&A or organic growth, we will aggressively pursue our runways.
Acquisitions have been more challenging. However, the target pipelines have begun to expand and we maintain our philosophy that we are if we are unable to acquire reasonably priced acquisition targets, we will grow organically.
We have increased capital spending on organic growth, including greenfield growth over the last few years. We expect to authorize $100 million in 2024 for these projects. We expect another $100 million to be spent on new product capacity increases, technology investments, research and development and innovation, and to ensure strong returns for our shareholders.
The Board declared a dividend of $0.33 per share payable on June 17th, 2024 to shareholders of record as of June three 2024. And in our share repurchase plan. As of last week, we have repurchased 671,291 shares of stock and still have $97 million remaining on our repurchase repurchase authorization, it's 97 million. Even though we are pursuing growth strategies for the future, we are confident that our shares are a very good long-term investment in other macro outlook items, we would summarize the future outlook to be a tale of two different consumer types.
Those that are doing well in the current economy are making the bulk of the retail purchases. These purchasers can sustain the current levels of demand and have kept our businesses all floating. We could improve demand if we can provide lower cost of those limited resources have been decimated due to high energy costs and inflationary impacts on basic necessities, such as housing, transportation and food.
I would endorse reducing inflation and providing relief by allowing the markets to work, reducing costs such as energy education and unnecessary regulations. I won't hold my breath waiting for the adoption of my suggestions, so we will continue to drive our business, execute our strategies and create value for our shareholders.
Now I'd like to turn it over to Mike Cole to review the financial information.

Michael Cole

Thank you, Matt. Our consolidated results this quarter include a 10% drop in sales to $1.64 billion, largely driven by a 9% reduction in selling prices, while unit sales declined by just 1%. The decline in selling prices resulted from a drop in lumber and more competitive pricing in certain business units.
Our overall unit sales held up well this quarter in spite of a more challenging demand environment due to the strength of our balanced business model. While adjusted EBITDA dropped Tennant 10.5% to $181 million, we're pleased to report, our adjusted EBITDA margin remained well above historical levels and improved sequentially from Q4 to 11%.
I was also pleased to see our cash cycle improved to 62 days this year from 71 days last year, which reduced our investment in net working capital and contributed to a $20 million improvement in our cash used in operations in a quarter that has seasonal working capital demands.
Our trailing 12 month return on invested capital also remains at historically high levels and nearly 20% about two times. Our weighted average cost of capital. We've significantly increased our dividends and share repurchases this year. And our balance sheet remains strong with a net cash surplus of $703 million this year compared to $145 million last year.
Moving on to our segments. Sales in our retail segment dropped 17% to $629 million, consisting of a 6% decline in selling prices, a 3% decline due to transfers of certain product sales to other segments and an 8% decline in unit sales. The unit decline was comprised of a 9% drop in volume with big box customers and a 7% decline in volume with independent retailers due to soft demand and more conservative inventory positioning by business unit, we experienced a 9% unit decline in pro wood.
That was partially offset by a 4% unit gain in our sales of Deckorators decking and railing products, which continues to experience solid demand in spite of lower overall demand and sales volumes.
In the retail segment, we're pleased to report a $6 million increase in our gross profits for the quarter, driven by a variety of factors, including better inventory management, SKU rationalization and operating improvements in each of our business units.
Operating profits also improved by $6 million as SG&A expenses were flat.
Moving on to packaging, sales in this segment dropped 13% to $424 million, consisting of an 11% decline in selling prices and a 6% decrease in units, partially offset by a 4% increase as a result of the transfer from retail.
As we mentioned over the last couple of quarters, customer demand continues to be soft, and that's contributed to more competitive pricing as a result of these factors, gross profits dropped by $35 million year-over-year for the quarter, but we're encouraged by the sequential improvement in sales and gross profit since Q4. The year-over-year decline in gross profits was offset by an $11 million decrease in SG&A resulting from a drop in incentive compensation expenses. Consequently, operating profits in the Packaging segment declined by $24 million and $31 million.
Turning to construction, sales in this segment were flat at $518 million as of the 10% decline in selling prices was offset by an 8% gain in units and a 2% increase as a result of the transfer from retail. The improvement in volume was due to our site-built unit, which increased 18% in our factory-built unit, which increased 16%. Comparatively national year-over-year housing starts from December to February increased 7%.
And year to date, factory-built home shipments increased 17%, and these volume increases were offset by declines in our commercial and concrete forming business units. The decline in selling prices was primarily experienced in our site build and concrete forming business units, which along with the unit declines I mentioned, resulted in a $7 million reduction in our overall gross profits for the quarter.
When combined with a $2 million increase in SG&A, our operating profits declined by $9 million to $45 million for the quarter. As we manage through this cycle each segment continues to focus on executing our strategies to grow our portfolio with value value added products. Our year to date ratio of value added sales to total sales improved slightly to 69% this year. And our ratio of new product sales to total sales also improved slightly to 7.6% this year.
We're also mindful of our cost structure in this environment as we ensure the company is appropriately sized relative to demand, while still providing the resources needed to execute our long-term strategies.
Our SG&A expenses came in on-plan for the quarter and were $3 million lower than last year, primarily driven by lower bonus and sales incentives, offset by higher base wages and benefit costs.
Moving on to our cash flow statement. Our cash flow used in operations was $17 million compared to $37 million last year. As reminder, in Q1 and Q2, we experienced a seasonal increase in net working capital, which has converted into cash flow in Q3 and Q4.
$20 million improvement over last year was due to lower volumes and lumber prices and an improvement in our cash cycle, all of which reduced our investment in net working capital. Our cash cycle this year decreased to 62 days from 71 days last year due to a two day improvement in our receivable cycle as our receivables remain a healthy 95% current and a seven day improvement in their days' supply of inventory due to our construction segments.
Our investing activities included $49 million in capital expenditures, our target for the years $250 million to $300 million, and we've already approved 100 million of projects with another $200 million of requests in our pipeline for evaluation as we continue to invest to support our long-term growth strategy. As a reminder, our expansionary capital investments are primarily focused on three key areas, expanding our capacity to manufacture new and value-added products, geographic expansion in core higher-margin businesses and achieving efficiencies through automation.
Finally, our financing activities included returning capital to shareholders through almost $20 million of dividends and $37 million of share repurchases.
Turning to our capital structure and resources, we continue to have a strong balance sheet with $703 million in surplus cash and in excess of debt compared to $145 million last year. And our total liquidity was $2.2 billion which consists of cash of nearly $1 billion and more than $1.2 billion in availability under long-term lending agreements.
With respect to capital allocation, we plan to continue to pursue a balanced and return-driven approach between dividends, share buybacks, capital investments and M&A. As we've discussed in the past, our highest priority for capital allocation is to drive organic and inorganic growth that results in higher margins and returns. Our strategy also includes continuing to grow our dividends in line with our free cash flow growth and repurchase our stock to offset dilution from share-based compensation plans.
We'll continue to opportunistically buy back more stock when it's trading at a discounted value. Most recently, our Board approved a quarterly dividend of $0.33 a share to be paid in June, representing a 32% increase from the rate paid a year ago. Through the end of last week, we repurchased 671,000 shares of stock at an average price of $114.43, offsetting the issuance of 450,000 shares under our compensation plans we currently have remaining authorization to repurchase $97 million worth of stock through the end of July 2024.
As we mentioned last quarter, as a result of the growth and margin improvement opportunities. We see we plan to meaningfully increase our cap total capital expenditures to an estimated range of $250 million to $300 million in 2024 compared to approximately $180 million in 2023. Expansionary capital investments are expected to comprise $150 million to $200 million of this total we plan to continue to invest at this elevated level to capitalize on the automation and higher-margin growth opportunities we see in each of our segments.
Finally, we continue to pursue a pipeline of M&A opportunities that are a strong strategic fit while providing higher margin return and growth potential. Recently, we've seen more activity in our pipeline, which is encouraging. As reminder, our first priority is to grow through M&A. But if the opportunities are present where valuations are appropriate, we'll pivot to greenfield growth.
I'll finish up with comments about our outlook for the rest of the year. We believe the soft demand and more competitive pricing we're currently experiencing will continue for most of the year, but we're cautiously optimistic. We'll see year-over-year improvements beginning in the back half of the year due to more favorable comparisons.
Our outlook is heavily dependent on the health of the economy, including the trajectory of interest rates by segment. We continue to plan for total housing starts that are essentially flat with last year with a significant increase in single-family starts, offset by a decrease in multi-family. We're now planning for mid single digit declines in demand in retail and packaging softer than we originally anticipated.
We're prudent, we think, based on current market conditions. So while we manage through mixed conditions in the short term, we remain confident in our long-term growth and margin potential and continue to invest in properly to properly position the Company to capitalize on those opportunities.
Well, I have in the financials.

Dick Gauthier

Matt?

Matthew Missad

Thank you, Mike. Now I'd like to open it up for any questions that you may have seen you.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Ketan Mamtora with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Ketan Mamtora

Thank you. Good morning, Mark, Mike and Dave are in Brazil. First question, perhaps, you know, starting with Deckorators. I thought that you talked about volumes up 4%, yet sales were up 10%. So the balanced prices it makes. Can you just give a little more color on that.

Michael Cole

And yes, it's both. I think the system product continues to grow. I have a strong growth rates and it's getting to the point where it's almost as large as the WPC. product we sell in average, obviously that comes at a higher price and that's caused the higher sales increase.

Ketan Mamtora

Then then the unit increase started and how big is the complete piece, both the WPC plus your stone, so Deckorators decking in total at this point or 2023?

Michael Cole

I'm sorry, can you repeat that?

Ketan Mamtora

In total?

Michael Cole

It's about $150 million with the WPCB. and maybe $10 million higher than than the mineral-based composite pipe.

Ketan Mamtora

So a little over $300 million are both put together. Is that fair?

Michael Cole

No, it's $150 million books put together our IC card.
Okay. 170, 260, I don't have it in front of me, but that's that's about the number.
Okay, perfect. And just stepping by the way that really now is on top of that, along with the other products we sell through Deckorators.

Ketan Mamtora

Understood. Thanks for that clarification. And then switching to packaging, I know, Mike, in your outlook comments, you talked about sort of competitive price pressure. I'm curious specifically on the packaging side and you know, what are you seeing on right now in terms of not just that pricing pressure, both on the structural packaging side and on the on the pallets, Saion yes, the market is still soft.

Michael Cole

We think we mentioned a couple of months ago when we released, we were hopeful that the first half of the year we'd reach a bottom and I think more anecdotally, we think that's the case. It feels like some doesn't feel like things are getting any worse from a from a pricing and a volume standpoint. And so now I would be waiting for for things to turn.

Ketan Mamtora

Understood.

Michael Cole

That's helpful.

Ketan Mamtora

I'll jump back in the queue. Good luck.

Michael Cole

Thanks, murky.

Operator

Stephan Guillaume with Sidoti.

Stephan Guillaume

Hi, good morning.
And then I guess that morning, part of any thoughts on the pricing changes by affecting the construction car industry it might offer to your project prices we're seeing to segmented decline before reaching a state of stability.

Matthew Missad

Yes, I think if we kind of consider the overall construction market, we look at kind of the pricing metrics. I think what you're seeing now is what I'd call a more normalized view today. I think in terms of pricing we don't expect a lot of change relative to where we are in the current state. It came down versus a year ago given the market conditions, lumber market was tended to be higher year ago. So there was some built in jobs that were prepurchased now with the market being much more level, it probably has, in my opinion anyway, it's leveled off at the current pricing levels, it will be situation where demand is going to drive the differences.
One part you focusing on SG&A line, could you outline your strategy for managing SG&A expensive expenses, Tom, relative to sales over the next year or so, especially in the context of our incremental investment.

Stephan Guillaume

How would you approach this in a challenging environment here?

Matthew Missad

And I think one of the things that I think we're very, very good at and I get tons of credit to all of our leaders who are running our operations, they focus on SG&A costs every day. And we have, as I mentioned, some built-in safeguards with respect to incentive compensation, which tends to be a large variable cost item for us. So that's automatically managed. So if profitability is lower, incentive compensation is lower. And as I indicated, none of us likes to lose. So we want to make sure we're winning.
So we're highly motivated to keep driving more efficiencies to manage those SG&A costs downward when trends are in a downward direction and to also keep a cap on them as we're growing, we are making several investments on the SG&A side and innovation and new products and marketing, which we talked about because we believe that's going to drive much more value in the future.
But in terms of looking at facility consolidations, which we discussed, looking at hiring personnel accounts, all those things. We take a very close look at that all the time and our goal is to not have event driven items, but rather manage that consistently on a day-to-day basis. And I think our teams do a terrific job of that.

Stephan Guillaume

And thank you so much for taking my questions.

Matthew Missad

Thank you.

Operator

Reuben Garner, Benchmark.

Reuben Garner

Thank you. Good morning, everybody.
Wanted a So I guess first, a clarification of that on the construction pricing, your comments about kind of I think you said something about locked in pricing. Was that multi-family side of your business that that would have changed dramatically on a year-over-year basis?

Matthew Missad

Yes, I think so Reuben, I think, as you know, multifamily projects have a longer lead time equipment so that there's a we're required to actually get inventory sooner on those types of projects. So in a market where it's high and then declining, obviously, that creates opportunity for expansion of margin and then on the retail side, a pretty meaningful change in your outlook in a couple of months, and I think you referenced more conservative inventory positioning from your customers.

Reuben Garner

I don't know if that was specific to big box or the independents retailers in the press release, but just any color there more color there on what you're seeing or hearing is this an ongoing destocking? Or are you expecting some sort of rebound earlier in the year that doesn't look like it's going to come to fruition at this point?

Matthew Missad

Yes, that's a great question. And I guess what I would point to is the I'll call it reasonable optimism that the second half of the year was going to be significantly better because we were expecting interest rate to come down a little bit from the Fed. That doesn't appear to be happening. So that's the largest single issue. I think we're just basically reflecting the difference and worth looking at what we're seeing, we're talking to our customers. They're indicating a change from what even we had a couple of months ago because of the interest rate expectations. So we haven't lost any confidence in the business. We still believe that our share is strong and we have opportunities to gain share and we will certainly be doing our best to do that. But we think overall demand without the interest rate drop is going to be kind of in line with where we are today as opposed to improving in the second half.

Reuben Garner

And just one last quick follow up there. With your first quarter kind of the mix between Pro wood and composites or Deckorators, would it look something like that as the year progresses where we may still see growth in the Deckorators side, and that's offset by unit declines in the treated lumber business?

Matthew Missad

Yes, we would expect that I think it's also important, Reuben to note that work, I'm certainly not talking on a sequential basis. I'm talking more relative to year over year because second and third quarter we still expect will be more in line kind of with seasonality, typical seasonality. But we do expect that Deckorators as opportunities to continue to grow and take share.

Reuben Garner

But I think you guys are a little tough from a lot of issues.

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Kurt Yinger with D.A. Davidson.

Kurt Yinger

Great.
Thanks and good morning, everyone. I'm born and Herb, I just wanted to go back to site built and hopefully put a bow on it. But you talked about pricing and the idea that from a competitive standpoint thing seems like things have and kind of stabilize there. Is there a tail impact from the multifamily dynamic that it may continue to weigh on margins, even though pricing is generally stable at this point? Or do you think you've worked through those challenges as a whole?

Matthew Missad

And that's a good question, Kurt. I'm not sure I have a great answer for you. I guess what I would look to is the consolidation in the industry over the last few years on the site-built side, I think probably is a dynamic that needs to be considered as you think about what's going on in the marketplace. We have expected that multifamily at some point in time would take a brief pause or appears that maybe that's where we are as they wait for rates to improve. So I think my my outlook right now is that if demand stays relatively in this range that the pricing should stay relatively in this range kind of.
Okay.

Kurt Yinger

Thanks for that.
And then on the retail side is kind of striking to me looking at the gross margin very strong for that business and which is surprising considering volumes seem to still be a little bit soft and not a whole heck of a lot going on in lumber. So maybe give us a little bit more color around what you saw there and whether there's any thing from a mix perspective worth calling out with the transfer of certain sales other segments?

Matthew Missad

Yes, that's a good observation, Kurt. And I think there might be a little bit of a head fake in there. You know this well, but if we look at our if we look at how we price products there with the fixed data or when the lumber market goes down, obviously though the percentage goes up, even though the fixed data is the same. So I think you're seeing that as a big contributor to this. The swing that you're observing there is primarily driven more by the lower lumber market than by anything else.

Michael Cole

The teams are working really hard on operating improvements. So they know the retail team has added inventory managers. Inventories are much more much better positioned now than they've done in the past for using our vendor-managed inventory programs more now than we have in the past and last year, we were still integrating the Sunbelt team into our ERP systems and operating practices, the edge team kind of stuff. It's totally out of the gate. So there's a lot there is a lot of opportunities for operating improvements and the team's just done it fantastic job on getting after those got hit in about a year ago, you guys acquired cedar poly.

Kurt Yinger

Any fear noteworthy kind of updates in terms of integration and savings that the combination of that and decorators has provided thus far?

Matthew Missad

Yes. So if you look at Cedar poly, we've essentially become they're not exclusive necessarily are pretty close to their exclusive customer for our wood plastic composite operations. We're exploring other opportunities to open that up for other materials, which can be used with our stone technology. But Tom, that's served us very well and in line with what we expected in terms of cost savings. And we are continuing to explore additional opportunities, including being able to utilize more recycled material in our finished products, our commitment to quality once requires us to make sure that quality comes first and if we can add more recycled content without hurting quality at all. And we'll continue to do that.
Got you.

Kurt Yinger

Okay.
And then just last one, can you remind us any notable organic growth plans or sorry, organic capital plans in the site-built business this year?
And as we look at the $100 million of kind of growth related CapEx, how much of that is related to Deckorators capacity specifically this year?

Matthew Missad

Yes, I'll answer the first question first and Mike can probably give you the specific numbers if we're allowed to give you the specific numbers. But what I would tell you is we have significant amounts built in for the site-built group to expand both geographically and to improve on certain locations, including relocating existing locations to larger, more efficient facilities.
So that's baked into those numbers as well as adding Deckorators capacity, which we've talked about on prior calls and talked about a couple of months ago as well. We're excited about growing that capacity, both in Selma and hand in that location in the Northeast. So those are all on the Board for this year.

Michael Cole

And we had a I think we announced a project we approved to expand capacity for system last summer, and that's going to be completed here shortly. And I think that that capacity probably adds another $100 million of sales potential for that business here. And then northeast side is new for us now got. So that will be a capital addition guys in the last projects will result in some sales increases going forward.

Matthew Missad

Okay. Got it. Thank you guys for the detail.

Kurt Yinger

Appreciate it.

Matthew Missad

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Matt Massad for any closing remarks.

Matthew Missad

Well, thank you again for spending the time with us today in 2024, we're not going to sit back and wait for the economy to improve. Instead, we are going to get in the Olympic spirit and do what we were trained to do work. Our take care of our customers, take care of our teammates and win in the marketplace. I am confident our team will continue to drive success, and as Tom Petty suggested, do whatever it takes to make it better in 2024. Have a great day.

Operator

This concludes today's program. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.