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Q3 2024 Nextracker Inc Earnings Call

Participants

Brian Lee; Anlayst; Goldman Sachs

Jon Windham; Analyst; UBS

Mark Strouse; Analyst; J.P. Morgan

Julien Smith; Analyst; Bank of America

Philip Shen; Analyst; Roth MKM

Kashy Harrison; Analyst; Piper Sandler

Christine Cho; Analyst; Barclays

Praneeth Satish; Analyst; Wells Fargo Securities, LLC

Steve Fleishman; Analyst; Wolfe Research

Moses Sutton; Analyst; BNP Paribas Securities Corp.

Presentation

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for standing by. My name is Sierra, and I will be your moderator today. Today's call is being recorded. I'd like to welcome everyone to Nextracker Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 earnings conference call. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a Q&A session. At this time for opening remarks, I would like to pass the call over to Mary Lai, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mary, you may begin.

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Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Nextracker third Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 earnings call, and Mary Lai, Vice President of Investor Relations. I'm joined by Dan Shugar, our CEO and Founder; Howard Wenger, our President; and Dave Bennett, our CFO. Following our prepared remarks, we will transition to a Q&A session.
As a reminder, there will be a replay of this call posted on the IR website along with our slides and press release. Today's call contains statements regarding our business, financial performance and operations, including the impact of our business, an industry that may be considered forward-looking statements and such statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations.
Those statements are based on current beliefs, assumptions and expectations and speak only as of the current date. For more information on those risks and uncertainties. Please review our earnings press release slide and our SEC filings, including our most recent filed Form 10-Q, which are available on our IR website at investors dot nextracker.com.
his information is subject to change and we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events or changes in our expectations. Please note, we will provide GAAP and non-GAAP measures on today's call. The full non-GAAP to GAAP reconciliation can be found in the appendix to the press release slides of today's presentation. As well as the financial section of our IR website.
And now I will turn the call over to our CEO and Founder. Dan?

Thank you, Mary. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter fiscal year 2024 earnings call. We start this call by noting how thrilled we are to be a fully independent public company after successful separation from flex in early January.
We are appreciative of our time with Flex and eight, your combination that exceeded its goals related to our growth and global expansion. And we sincerely thank the six outgoing Board members all flex executives for their service. We're also excited to welcome Julie Blunden and Howard Wenger or to our Board, further strengthening our directors deep domain expertise in solar storage and public companies.
Let's focus on Q3 results. This was another strong quarter and our fourth consecutive quarter of double digit growth resulting in record revenue, profits and backlog. Q3 demonstrated ongoing momentum for Nextracker in the solar industry. Our revenue grew 38% year over year to exceed $700 million, and our adjusted EBITDA accelerated to $168 million.
It's noteworthy that we've doubled our adjusted EBITDA in the last 12 months. The significant top line and profit expansion was the result of our solid execution further optimization of our re-architected supply chain and continued rigor and pricing discipline. Our reported $168 million of adjusted EBITDA does not include the anticipated 45X tax benefits, which are expected to further increase earnings.
Q3's performance was driven by exceptionally high deliveries in our U.S. business, growing 70% year over year. We also highlight our international expansion progress by celebrating the 10 gigawatt milestone we reached in the Middle East, India and Africa. We have long term and proven track record in these regions. We're in some cases we have the advantage of first market mover.
Our differentiated product reliability in extreme weather and ability to deliver large find scale are well understood by customers recently, we've booked significant orders and have tracker fleets operating in India, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Africa.
To serve our growing demand, we keep expanding our global supplier footprint in total, we now have over 70 major supply chain partners across five continents. Our new contracted bookings continue at a healthy pace, both domestically and overseas. This resulted in a new record backlog, significantly exceeding $3 billion with a strong demand and record backlog. Year to date.
We are increasing guidance. We are raising the midpoint of our previous annual revenue and profit guidance by approximately $100 million and $73 million, respectively. For the full fiscal year, our new revenue target is $2.45 billion and our new EBITDA target is $488 million at the midpoint.\
This is the third consecutive quarter we've raised our revenue and profit guidance. We achieved this growth by focusing on innovation, customers' execution and our team delivering over 90 gigawatts since inception. Based on our strong growth profile, supported by healthy profitability and ample liquidity, we've continued to increase our investments in R&D with emphasis on technology that lowers the levelized cost of solar energy for our customers.
The additional R&D investments we've made have accelerated the time-to-market for new products and allows us to maintain market leadership. In Q3, we bolstered our overall patent portfolio, both organically and through strategic investments.
We now have over 500 patents issued and pending at the end of the quarter last September, we launched our next generation technology suite with three innovations IQstream terrain following tracker XTR 1.5 help grow for an ex horizon and zonal diffused for to capture all of these innovations are either operating in the field today or under contract to be delivered to customer projects later this year. We will now speak to the short and long-term dynamics in the market.
Starting with the United States. As covered on our previous calls, there are multiple headwinds and tailwinds impacting solar development velocity headwinds, including interconnection backlogs, permitting delays and equipment shortages are real and can impact any specific project, EPC or developer. But in totality, the combination of new entrants in both developers and EPCs and the increasing number of projects in their portfolios has allowed the market to continue expanding solar panel availability in the United States has improved significantly over recent quarters.
And as things stand today, we are not seeing panel availability as a first-order problem in the market. There are, however, multiple trade proceedings pending, which could impact panel imports from certain geographies into the US. We will need to see how this evolves over time to determine any potential impact according to the Solar Energy Industries Association at the one-year anniversary of the inflation Reduction Act or IRA 85 gigawatts of new U.S. solar module manufacturing capacity had been announced, which inspires confidence that panel availability will be systemically addressed in the coming years.
Overseas some of the headwinds noted above also exist that are typically less severe than the U.S. and globally falling solar panel pricing has enabled the economics of projects to continue improving and markets in general to continue expanding. Longer term, we believe it's insightful to consider both the accelerating need for new power in combination with retiring legacy power generation assets.
Focusing on the US power generation requirements grew modestly from 2007 through 2022 at about 1% annual increase over the last few years. However, energy usage has increased dramatically, driven by growth in data centers, electrification of appliances and transportation and reindustrialization across United States.
At the same time, there has been a significant retirement of legacy power plants. The combination of these factors has caused the US Energy Information Administration to forecast, a 5% annual increased needs for new power generation capacity in the grid over the next five years. The result is that almost 300 gigawatts of new power plants are needed over the next five years and about 500 gigawatts of new power is needed over the next decade where is this massive amount of new power going to come from.
The USCIA, historically very conservative on renewables is forecasting that solar and wind power will comprise the vast majority of new power generation Solar's expected to have a 26% compound annual growth over the next five years and within 10 years be the number one source of electric generation in the United States comprising almost a quarter of all electric energy.
Naysayers point to the intermittency of renewable power as an impediment to its large-scale adoption in the grid. We believe this issue will improve sharp decreases in battery costs have enabled steep ramping of battery storage power plants in the grid, both co-located with renewable power and stand-alone projects.
Battery power increased fivefold in the last two years to 15 gigawatts operating in the USA Today and batteries are expected to triple again to about 50 gigawatts by 2026. Many battery systems have four hours of storage today, which pairs well with a solar tracker plant, which together provide firm power through the evening peaks.
Nextracker is very well positioned to continue driving utility scale and distributed generation as the world transitions to renewable energy with solar leading the charge or the skeletal system for the solar power ecosystem. With over 2 million tracker systems shipped to more than 30 countries. We're the global market leader in trackers and a preferred partner for Tier one owners, developers and EPCs. And equally important, we appreciate our customers and their guidance on our products. We listen and respond to customer requirements with operational excellence and uncompromising quality.
Now I'll turn the call over to Howard Wenger, our President, to expand on our commercial progress and product innovation.

Thank you, Dan. Q3 was another successful quarter, delivering multiple proof points that our products are differentiated and our team continues to execute on fulfilling customer requirements. It's been an amazing journey as we have scaled next trackers revenue to over $700 million this quarter.
In just a short two year span, we've more than doubled our quarterly revenue while increasing profitability. Our proactive investments are paying off. We have invested in innovation, increasing our technology lead. We've implemented a regional strategy to further enable international expansion, and we have successfully deployed a strategic pivot to localize our U.S. supply chain, which is in full flight.
The US remains our largest served market, representing 78% of total Q3 revenue. This is a higher percentage than in previous reported quarters. However, we expect our revenue mix to continue to be approximately two-thirds US and one-third international.
For the full fiscal year '24, we did have some delays of projects in the quarter, but this was more than offset by other projects pulling in ahead as our team continued to focus on customer needs and delivery requests. The international business performed as expected with our EMEA region, leading the way with project deliveries in Middle East, India and Africa.
We are very pleased with our global supply chain and project management teams as they continue to collaborate with customers worldwide. Establishing local supply has further optimized our offering and provides even more reliability, improving execution on multiple continents to achieve on-time delivery for our customers.
Let me now provide some details on our new Q3 bookings. Overall, we are seeing continued strong demand. We had another excellent quarter for new business with a book-to-bill ratio greater than one. Our backlog increased quarter over quarter to a new record and remains significantly over $3 billion in the US Q3 bookings were diversely represented across the country where we continue to win under a wide range of conditions and terrains.
We executed a healthy mix of new EPC contracts and volume commitment agreements or VCA.s. In the quarter, we believe our continued sales strength reflects Nextracker superiority across multiple dimensions that matter most to discerning customers. This includes product performance and capability, quality and reliability service, offering track record our team and execution and customer focus.
This catalog of positive attributes earned over many years translates into what we believe is the most bankable product with the lowest levelized cost of energy for large-scale solar power we also now have a robust U.S. manufacturing capability that is enabling us to deliver domestic content.
Our customers want as well as providing scalable capacity to allow for future growth as for the IRA and the impact of waiting for treasury clarifications. The upshot is that we are not seeing a significant impact on U.S. project deliveries or on new bookings customers and projects are transacting. And as we have outlined in previous earnings calls, we continue to see positive demand activities as our backlog continues to grow.
Let's now turn to our international bookings. In Q3, we signed customer contracts across several international regions, notably in India, Australia, Saudi Arabia, and Spain. We've also added new countries to our list such as South Africa, New Zealand and even Sweden, which is not considered a traditional solar market, but reflects improving economics driven by recent solar technology developments such as bifacial solar panels and Nextracker to capture technology as you heard from Dan.
We achieved a milestone of 10 gigawatts of operating and contracted systems in our EMEA region, comprised of Middle East, India and Africa are deep relationships and already established track record of superior solar performance matter greatly to customers in these regions.
As we deploy our regional strategy, we have more boots on the ground to scale, but more importantly, we lead with product quality and reliability, our world-class wind engineering and performance, coupled with our high-quality and durable components such as batteries, motors and fasteners. While we believe it's early days in our global expansion.
We've been fast movers and are the leading solar tracker platform in many countries, and we have increasing opportunities to further invest and mobilize to address and grow in these significant markets. As Dan noted, we are constantly monitoring headwinds and tailwinds for our business as we navigate the company forward. We continue to see on balance a net positive trend and we are in a strong position going forward.
We do want to acknowledge that some of our shipments are being rerouted due to the Red Sea and Suez Canal conflict, which does have an impact on some deliveries and costs and potentially revenue recognition. We have factored this into our guidance. While we don't see a material impact today, we are closely monitoring the situation, and we continue to make the adjustments needed to minimize the impact to our customers.
I'd like to briefly discuss pricing. Solar trackers are not commodity products, but are highly engineered for site-specific conditions such as soils and foundation requirements, topography, wind speeds, panel type and local permit needs, codes and standards. As such, cost and pricing are specific to each and every project and vary from site to site region to region and customer to customer.
Also, I want to point out there is a significant lag time of multiple quarters between ASP., our average sales price at the time of booking versus the revenue per watt that is often used as a proxy for ASP. That said on an aggregate basis worldwide for Q3 and for the majority of last year, our BASP. has been relatively stable.
Our margin strength is in part a result of our continued rigor in pricing discipline, but even more so it's driven by a differentiated superior product and service offering and our ability to deliver what we believe offers the lowest LCOE and highest financial returns for our customers. We do not chase business. And finally, let me wrap up with a quick update on our continued hardware and software innovation.
We are having tremendous success with our extra Horizon tracker products as well as increasing traction for both of our XTR. and Hale Pro product lines. As we increase project installations of these products in a wider variety of terrains and weather conditions. We are expanding use cases for Nextracker. Q3 sales and installation have to capture increased both sequentially and year over year to capture is our intelligent self-adjusting tracker software that integrates with our patented electronic controller to help maximize solar power production.
It operates automatically with no user intervention to capture as a differentiated software platform and enhances our overall offering. We are seeing increasing adoption as our customers see the value add by boosting energy gains and enhancing their financial returns. We will continue our R&D investments to accelerate innovation and time to market for new products.
We recently announced new product innovations that leverage inherent features of our flagship and exercise and smart solar tracking system. We are making good progress in HALE Pro and Hale Pro 75 XTR 1.5 and enhancements to capture, including zonal diffuse. All of these innovations are either operating in the field today are scheduled to be delivered to customer projects later this year. We will be reporting on our progress in the quarters ahead.
In summary, we are very proud of the team's execution and accomplishments in the quarter, we just celebrated our 10-year anniversary and we are energized and ready for more art as the world transitions to renewable energy Now let me turn the call over to Dave Bennett, our Chief Financial Officer, to review financials. Dave?

Thank you, Howard. Before I start, I'd like to remind everyone that all references to financial metrics except for revenue are non-GAAP adjusted and all growth rates are year over year, unless otherwise stated. Please note our Q3 results exclude any benefit from the IRA 45X tax credits related to tracker components. Q3 was another record quarter, delivering double digit growth for both top and bottom line and our fourth consecutive quarter of growth since the IPO.
Q3 revenue closed at $710 million, up 38%, driven by a 70% increase in the US market, offset by a decline of 17% in the rest of the world, Q3 revenue mix was 78% and 22%, respectively. We saw a material uptick to US revenue, primarily due to strong execution from our teams and progressing projects to schedule. We expect the US to land at the high end of our previously reported full year revenue mix of 60% to 70% of total revenue
Adjusted EBITDA for q three was $168 million, an increase of $105 million or 168% growth, establishing another new record for the company. Gross margins expanded in Q3 to 30% as a result of our strong execution and favorable mix both by project and region. As Howard and Dan both mentioned, our teams continued to optimize our supply chain and drive pricing discipline. As I just said, Q3 also had a larger U.S. mix, which has somewhat higher pricing and margins versus the rest of the world.
Our Q3 EBITDA margin of 23.6% was up over 1,100 basis points from the prior year and marks the seventh consecutive quarter of sequential margin improvement. Despite Q3 outperformance, we continue to expect project gross margins to track in the mid-20s as we manage our business to optimize annual results. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.96 in the quarter. As previously stated, the separation from flex increased our public float by approximately 74 million shares, but does not impact our diluted EPS.
Adjusted free cash flow was $62 million for the quarter and $314 million for the first nine months of fiscal year '24, driven by strong net working capital management, customer deposits and higher EBITDA. Net working capital at the end of Q3 was approximately 13% of trailing 12 months revenue, which was within our expected 10% to 15% levels.
To support our planned growth in the next few quarters. We expect to continue to fund our net working capital, which may pressure free cash flow. Our high quality balance sheet, cash flow generation and ample liquidity remain competitive advantages. We closed the quarter with $368 million in total cash, which is greater than 2 times our total debt of less than $150 million.
Total liquidity at the end of Q3 was nearly $800 million. We continue to operate with a debt to EBITDA ratio of less than one with no significant debt maturities until fiscal 2028. We have a resilient financial model with a growth mindset we will continue to make investments in our team's technology and infrastructure to grow, create value and scale our business. At the same time, we have the flexibility to explore M&A opportunities to accelerate our business with the mindset to create differentiated value for customers in addition to increasing shareholder value.
Let me now transition to the IRA 45X benefit considerations for Nextracker. We have developed great relationships and arrangements with top vendors in the industry. We have strong conviction that our torque tubes and the bulk of our fasteners will qualify under 45 times, which will be meaningful to our financials in fiscal year 2025.
The key takeaway to understand is that our objective is to reduce the cost of materials to enable domestically made product to be cost competitive with imports. We had a 45X tax credit vendor rebates consistent with last quarter. We have not factored in any expected IRA. 45X profit projections in our updated fiscal 2020 for adjusted EBITDA and non-GAAP EPS guidance. However, based on current arrangements with vendors and the 45X treasury rules, we expect to realize a reduction in GAAP cost of sales in the range of $50 million to $80 million in our fourth quarter fiscal '24.
This is our current projection and subject to change based on contract terms and tax filing timing by our vendors. As previously messaged fiscal '24 continues to be a transitional year as we work through respective contract terms and mechanics with our vendors. We plan to include the impacts of the 45X tax credits in our fiscal 2025 adjusted EBITDA and non-GAAP EPS guidance.
Now let me speak briefly about the successful separation from Flex. As stated in the previously issued press release on January second, we announced the completion of Flex's spinoff of all of its remaining interest in Nextracker to the flex shareholders flex no longer directly or indirectly holds any shares of Nextracker common stock. We continue to maintain a transition services agreement with Flex to properly transition certain non-customer facing and back office functions, which we expect to be completed this year.
Turning to guidance, our revised full year fiscal '24 guidance is as follows with strong results. Year to date, we have once again raised the midpoint of our full year revenue guidance by $100 million. The new range is now $2.425 billion to $2.475 billion. At the midpoint, we're expecting 29% growth year over year. We've also raised our adjusted EBITDA guidance range meaningfully by $73 million.
The updated range is now $475 million to $500 million. At the midpoint, we're expecting over 130% growth year over year and an implied EBITDA margin of approximately 20%. Our business should be evaluated on an annual basis. Structurally, we expect our gross margin to be sustainable in the mid-20s range. Factoring in quarterly variations in regional project and customer mix. GAAP EPS is expected to be between $2.33 to $2.90 per share and includes approximately $0.3 related to stock-based compensation and intangible amortization.
GAAP EPS also includes the benefit of approximately $0.28 to $0.45 per share related to the recognition of the expected IRA tax credit vendor rebates. Adjusted EPS is expected to be between $2.55 to $2.75 per share based on 148 million weighted average shares outstanding. Net interest and other income are expected to be under $5 million due to benefits from FX and interest income offsetting interest expense. We still expect the adjusted income tax rate to range between 15% to 20% for the full fiscal year. As we head into fiscal 2025, we do expect the tax rate to trend slightly higher as an independent company domiciled in the US.
I will now turn the call back to Dan for concluding remarks. Dan?

Thank you, Dave. I'm so proud of our team and what we've achieved. Our execution is backed by a strong history of innovation, deep domain expertise, global supply chain and trusted relationships. We're thrilled to begin this year as a fully independent company. We will continue to make strategic investments, expand our talented team and look to pursue additional market opportunities ahead. Nextracker is well positioned to grow and scale globally, we're just getting started. We now look forward to your questions. Let me pass the call back to the operator.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

Thank you (Operator Instructions)
Brian Lee, Goldman Sachs.

Brian Lee

Hey, guys, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on great execution again. On your first question, I know you probably can't get into all the specifics, but if we sort of back into what's implied by the guidance for the vendor rebates that you're going to be seeing in fiscal Q4?
I guess I get to something in the ballpark of like a third, our credit share with other constituents here, I know, we might not have all the details to be able to get to that number, but I thought it would be a bit higher.
So is there some additional clarity you can provide as to whether one is that in the right ballpark or two, is there something unique about your shipments in 23 that you wouldn't get the full share or 50% plus that I think has been implied thus far and by you and your peers, just wondering what we should be thinking about as we head into fiscal '25 and then I had a follow-up.

Yes, Brian, Dan Shugar. Thank you for your question. We're not commenting on the share that we have with our manufacturing partners safety up more tier of Dave on that?

Yes, based in high brine field, couple of things to remember on our fiscal '24 and one is we've previously guided with our 45 times we're going to finish the year measuring our business to that standard. I'm trying to give you guys enough transparency hard to understand, and we are partnering with our vendors and have a meaningful share of that, and that's the extent of it on for '24 as a transitional year.
Starting in January, we started U.S. manufacturing before 2023, but tripled down on it after IRA. and think about the ramp going through calendar 2023. So you're not at a full run rate at the beginning of it. So just trying to measure that the amount based on our cumulative catch-up entry is not going to be representative of our going-forward plan.
And then each vendor, we're going to work contract by contract to understand their tax filing status and work with them. And then lastly, Q4, it conveys a cumulative catch-up for all of those periods over in the ramp. And so in a nutshell, the way we're addressing it is fiscal '25, 45 X will be operationalized and used as a measure of performance for us. So it will be in our guidance for fiscal '25. We're looking at it for fiscal '24. It's really a transitional year, and that's kind of why we've approached it that way.

Brian Lee

If the Fair enough that makes sense. So that figure there's some nuances to the to the number for this year. Maybe the second question I'll pass it on. This could be for you, Dan I guess can you talk a bit about the competitive landscape, the market share outlook, particularly in the U.S.? It seems like that has become a bit more noisy of late.
I know, Nextracker has been winning via innovation and meeting customer requirements. So any reason to believe that won't be the case going forward? Can you maybe speak to the samples where you're getting wins or feedback from customers on this being the reason you continue to win business in the US?

Thank you, Brian. Yes, product differentiation is a primary driver for us. Are winning in the market that combined with our experience financial position. And at the end of the day, what does that mean? Our trackers make more energy than other designs that are at scale on the market. We you can visually see it. If you go on, are you too and you looked at our true capture, there's a couple of three-minute videos and there.
You can actually see how the systems are working. Empirical side-by-side cases were true captures of rock operation once or not, and we harvest more bifacial energy through reflective light about a third of the United States is in U.S. It's a pretty extreme hail risk area
And we have operationalize our Hill PRO technology to help customers enjoy operational performance on their system that's safer and we have many successful customers with their fleets using our technology. So there's a variety of factors there, but we've been in the shoes of the customer. What we're focused on is the lowest LCOE for our customers by having differentiated technology, really strong operational there.
Thanks for the color, guys. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Jon Windham, UBS.

Jon Windham

Perfect, thanks and great result. Stats about you did mention some project delays that you can just any color you can add to what Joe does subsea at some project pull forwards to allow you still beat on revenue bridge pretty solidly. But just any commentary about the nature of delays in geography, what caused them to be helpful. Thanks.

Sure. This is Howard Wenger. I'll answer that. So we had some delays, for example, in the Midwest.
There's a lot of it's the wintertime and the training sites can get money, things could get pushed a course of a week or two weeks. So the shipments can, you know, vary from quarter to quarter as a result of that. Meanwhile, we've had acceleration for customers on product faster. And so on balance, we be on every financial metric, which means we beat on shipments to. So on balance, we're good, but it's not we're in the project business for a part of this construction business and things can shift here and there.
The other thing I mentioned was the conflict in the Suez Canal region and that we have factored that into our target our shipping timeframes, so with our customers. So we're able to mitigate and get product to our customers on time. So they can finish their projects on time, but things can shift a week or two as a result of on different dynamics. Excellent question.
Great.
Thanks.

Jon Windham

Yes, thanks, Ed. I'll take the ForEx accounting questions off-line. One for everyone. Thanks, Dan.

Operator

Mark Strouse J.P. Morgan.

Mark Strouse

Good afternoon. Thank you very much for taking the questions. I'll echo my congrats as well. So pretty impressive upside to the guidance with just the just a quarter to go in the year. I'm curious if you had kind of talked about project movements forward and backwards, if there were any sizable project pull forward into the March quarter that you should call out? Or is this kind of just broader market acceleration?

It really is just broader market acceleration Mark, as we noted in our previous call, we had, but we have a lot of backlog where our backlog has grown quarter over quarter were over $3 billion significantly. And so customers in the strength of the market, particularly in the US. As we noted, 78% of our revenue came from the US in the quarter, which is higher than normal.
It can fluctuate quarter to quarter and we expect it to normally be two-thirds, one-third, but there were there are some pull-ins from in the U.S. But it's not significantly changing our demand picture at all. Our backlog grew in the quarter. So there's really nothing significant.
One thing that Dan noted in his remarks is that there's simply more developers and more EPCs. And we believe we're doing a good job with our team from winning the share of the business. So the strength is there. The demand strength is there and things are slowing down because of IRA bomb in any way. So yes, that's where we're at on balance.

Mark Strouse

Okay. I'll take the rest offline. Thank you, Howard.

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Julien Smith, Bank of America.

Julien Smith

Very indeed. Really, very well done. Impressive. A deep look, thank you guys, very much. Appreciated.
So with respect to the 45X just coming back to what we were saying a second ago, our percentage, Jerry, if I can ask that question slightly differently rather than what the percentages, how do you think about what a run rate might look like, for instance, like how do you think about what that would trend into the '25 period? And is it fully reflective of all the various aspects of 45 as you think about 23 and beyond?

Julian, thanks for your question. Let me just start with the operational aspect, and then Dave will speak to the financials. Nextracker is very, very serious about scaling up domestic manufacturing in the states in our other core markets. And we hit this early. And last summer, we announced '25 gigawatts of contracted capacity across the United States. We've operationalized that we've had six public factory openings.
We've we have over a dozen factories shipping finished goods all across the United States. And we are going to be in a position to meet any customer request for domestic manufactured content and be able to arbitrage any problem with you just cannot afford for thought.
There is a proud moment. It's logistics route for currency or natural disaster or what have you. So we're really focused on being able to operationalize that with both the supply chain and we're achieving great success with our partners. And in a number of cases, we've gone back to some of these factories we've started up work with our partners to double our order featuring greater increased capacity in those factories stays fairly, hey, go into building, Dave.

That would be is, as I indicated, there's a lot of moving parts with what quantifies the fiscal '24 Q4 amount. And that isn't necessarily a good indicator for what we will be given the ramp, given the onetime nature of the cumulative catch-up. And as we've been saying, we bring in demand, it's a meaningful partnership with our with our vendors, and we will include that in our fiscal '25 guidance. So it will be transparent to see the uplift to our profitability for fiscal '25.

Julien Smith

Wonderful, guys. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And then just related to your on the mix on international. You guys are talking about once there's still obviously some real successes abroad. How do you think about what that proportion could trend as you think about it year over year in terms of recognizing that revenue? And then related, how do you think about the ongoing expansion of gross margin? Does that start to top out as you think about that international mix really getting going here, if you will?

And Julien, this is Howard. So it's a big world. Solar works just about everywhere. We had our first project in Sweden on that, you don't typically find them as a great solar market. And so but the United States remains the biggest market outside of China in the world. And certainly for Nextracker, it's going to continue to be the biggest market for some time some, but is unbalanced.
There are we are more locations around the world that we can and we are driving towards increasing that one- third share of our total business because we think that's healthy for the company and provides us more levers for growth. Tom, and we are really just getting started in many countries around the world.
So as far as margin on that front, we have seen that it can be some more price sensitive, but we think that will change over time as customers come to realize the strength of our technology and the importance of the tracker in terms of being designed for a 40 year design life like ours is with the highest quality components, the best reliability, the best performance track record and the owners of these projects will increasingly drive and of the choice of Nextracker being the most reliable and most trusted partner.
We've seen that in the United States. We think that part of our traction, we believe we're going to see that more and more internationally as time goes on what they I want to note and mention that we've shipped over 90 gigawatts in the company's history.
Two thirds of those gigawatts is just in the last three years. So when you think about the S curve and the adoption rate and how we're going up that experience base, it'll pull increasingly more towards quality, a flight to quality over time, and that's played out in the U.S. already, which is our home market. It will play out internationally as well. Thanks for your questions.

I'd like to highlight what Howard said, which is this, it's around our philosophy for how we design, how we build, how we serve customers. I can tell you with Nextracker is not going to do. We're not going to cut any corners on our product quality design philosophy. You won't be seeing Nextracker shipping lead acid batteries in our new core tools for doing any corner cutting on our products going to be maintaining the highest standards. It makes sure that trackers perform and that we really set a standard not only for Nextracker , but that solar power systems are the highest performing reliable systems in power generation. Yes. Thanks, Julian.

Operator

Philip Shen, ROTH.

Philip Shen

Please proceed, guys. Congrats on a great quarter. Just a quick follow-up on Julian's last question there, specifically for FQ3, was international mix down due to seasonality or was it more just strength in the US market on or was there some slowdown in international growth? And then what is your expectation for the international versus US mix for FQ?

Yes, but what was the start for the full year? Philp, we'd expect to land at roughly one-third, two-thirds for the full fiscal year '24. Okay. So on balance, you'll see for Q4 numbers that are closer to that on. And so we are the US market just is very strong right now and customers are accelerating certain projects. And that's what we saw this quarter. And when we can make a difference, right, 50 going to one at a 13 weeks.
You have some significant projects getting more product this week versus next the next week for falling out into the subsequent quarter. It can change that ratio. But yes, we're stable at one-third, two-thirds and thanks, however, I do want to note that interest is up. The international business is up a few now year on year quarter on quarter in terms of bookings and up revenue.

Philip Shen

Got it. Thanks. So no slowdown there as it relates to I know right nicely that you guys are on doing very well with your bookings and your record backlog, which would assume at least seven or $710 million in bookings, I think for FQ3 Was wondering if you could give us just a little bit of color on do you think the FQ. three bookings were closer to $1billion or maybe closer to [$750 million]? And then to what degree can you share any color on what you see for calendar '24 or better yet in your fiscal' 25?
I know you have no official guidance but reality is you guys have very long lead times and you should have good visibility. So to the degree you can kind of talk through that would be really helpful. And do you expect the booking strength to continue you expect to be able to continue to hit these record backlog numbers in the coming quarters?

Yes, we're going to give more detail on the next call as to where we landed on backlog for the year. We mentioned that I think last quarter or the quarter before that we would be on an annual basis, providing more detail on backlog and then quarter-to-quarter some directional guidance.
So I just want to say on the bookings and the bookings strength very consistent for the since we've been public company each quarter that we've reported. Our bookings in totality, worldwide, EPC and BCA business, very consistent each quarter in terms of magnitude and very strong each quarter, reflecting strong demand globally. Thanks for your question, Phil.

And just on the longer term, Phil, in my prepared remarks, I noted that the EIA. is forecasting a 26% annually compounded growth in solar and States does that that sounds very high rate for next has demonstrated a 30% annual compounded growth for five years in a row. So it is definitely in the realm of our possibility, both the United States in particular, is going to need a ton of talent.
So there's a huge opportunity here, not just for Nextracker, but the whole solar power industry, other tracker companies, new tracker entrants, new solar panel companies, new power electronics companies, new EPCs to really engage in the market. And we need we need additional companies and companies that are serious about performing and delivering high-quality products across the value chain.
Because I mean that is tremendous 300 gigawatts of new power needed in five years in the United States with the IEA predicting most of that's going to come from solar. That's a big deal.

Thank you. Phil

Thanks, Dan, Then just quickly, thanks.

Operator

Kashy Harrison, Piper Sandler.

Kashy Harrison

But good afternoon, great quarter, and thanks for taking the questions. And so my first one is just on the margin of 30%. It's a pretty big number. And I was wondering if you could just provide more specifics on precisely on how you got to 30% this quarter.
And then, Dave, I know, you mentioned mid 20s is more of a sustainable level, but is there a scenario in which Nextracker is generating 30% gross margins ex credits while simultaneously generating a lower LCOE than some of your peers? And I have a follow-up.

Yes, thanks for the question. Kashy, obviously, is there a scenario where we just printed it? So I can't say that there isn't a scenario the higher gross margin for the quarter driven by some level of leverage. We were at a record revenue was at $710 million. We benefited from a regional mix that we already alluded to with a high U.S. concentration that generally drives a higher margin profile and a slightly better software attach rate.
So that's going to move our margin profile up as well. The year-over-year increase we spoke about before. But in terms of the sequential increase, no, it's just execution over and over the biggest factor, in my opinion, is pricing discipline and cost discipline.
So some of the innovations that we talk to and everyone aligned to the new product introduction, that's real, but it's also about innovating our supply chain our cost downs in enabling us to maintain that higher profitability. But to close, if you really should look at it on a greater than one quarter window, if you look at the full year to date, actually, we are at a 27% gross margin and a 20% EBITDA, which is in that range of what we say it's sustainable like you know, we're going to have thirty seconds.

Yes, apology, we need to go to the next question, Encapsys.

Kashy Harrison

Thank you.

Operator

Christine Cho, Barclays.

Christine Cho

Good evening. Thank you for taking my question and great. fourth quarter, if I could. Just I'll go back to your comments on the 45 Act for fiscal '25. I know, you mentioned that you expect it to be meaningful and the objective is to reduce costs? So can you just talk through how you expect that to impact margin? You expect expected, let's say, an equal offset or do you anticipate to be more and you would keep it as higher margin or do you adjust for them all?

Yes, hi, Christine. This is Shug. Thanks for your questions. Well, the 45X was about rapidly spinning up the U.S. supply chain to deal with all the disruptions in the pandemic and create a bunch of jobs here. That was the premise of the 45X and in tracker for solar panels. And we have accomplished that products are competitive here with things that are made overseas with the 45X and we're delivering on the US product with steel that source domestically with higher quality steel, it's also cleaner. Okay.
With respect to our position on the 45 X Nextracker has an extremely diverse domestic supply chain across multiple manufacturing partners with a huge amount of capacity. We've announced over 25 gigawatts of capacity and we've operationalized that which one would then have to presume we're in a very strong position with respect to supporting.
But also to find a negotiating position with respect to suppliers so we're going to leave it at that, and we'll be speaking to our FY25 guidance and for the next quarter. Thank you for your question.

Operator

Praneeth Satish, Wells Fargo.

Praneeth Satish

Thanks. I guess with the separation from flex behind you, I'm just interested in your perspective on M&A, whether you'd be more or less inclined to pursue acquisitions now? And then I guess just broadly, what gaps do you see in your portfolio and what businesses do you think would be complementary and synergistic?

Thanks Praneeth. We don't see gaps in our offering. We could expand our offering. We will be very discerning as we were when we did an acquisition of a machine learning company seven or eight years ago that helped us accelerate our capture technology. So we just completed the flex spinoff and we are open to a variety of options. We're evaluating things, but we're going to be have a lot of discipline about how we proceed on that. Thank you.

Operator

Steve Fleishman, Wolfe Research.

Steve Fleishman

Excuse me. Thank you. Two quick questions. First, the strong U.S. growth, any sense on how much that is market growth versus you taking market share? And then just would like more color on your thoughts on the commentary on the trade issues on panels and a lot of answers that seems backward looking, but what the risks might be to forward looking?

We focus on our customers and winning and partnering with them. We're doing that with our EPC customers. We're doing that with owner developers directly Alm and then power plant owners. And we have a lot of capacity for growth. And we don't really pay attention to on whether we're taking share or we're just we're just focused on delivering value for our customers and improving our products, investing in innovation and doing as much solar as we possibly can.
And we've dedicated our whole careers to solar mainstream solar power. And I have worked in the solar power industry for more than 35 years each. And that's our focus. What we do find when we do that, both when we have that focus and when the company focuses on value that we do win. It seems like we win disproportionately and which is good for the company, but it's mainly around and we've shown that we are both global leader in market share.
Okay? But we're just I'm really conveying that to all of our employees that the company focus on pickups, customer focus on innovation, differentiation, delivering value, lowering the cost of energy having that 40 year design life, highest quality, highest reliability, reliability, DNA and that and that breeds success. Thanks for your question.

We have time for one more question operator.

Operator

Moses Sutton, BNP.

Moses Sutton

I think thanks for squeezing me in. Just a quick one on to capture. See you noted it's slightly better software attach. Any way to quantify this at all, maybe the cumulative installed gigawatt number on how much has changed on a quarter over quarter year over year? Just anything that can help us on the capture side through the numbers? Thank you.

Well, that's thanks for your question. As we have kept introducing new features on true capture like split boost, Donald, the fuse. We've seen increasing uptake on our true capture fleet. And as I mentioned, you can visually see it. So we encourage the people to watch those videos. We have on YouTube So let me go in deeper on your question and for next quarter when we do the annual guide.

Moses Sutton

Great. Thanks again, and congrats on your airport.

Thank you, everyone about the great thank you, everyone, for joining the call. This concludes our call.

Operator

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