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LIVE MARKETS-Germany: no fast rebound but no crash either

* European shares cruise higher on trade deal optimism

* STOXX 600 hits fresh July 2015 high, last up 0.2%

* But German industrial output drop adds to recession fears

* China says it agreed with U.S. to cancel tariffs in phases Welcome to the home for real-time coverage of European equity markets brought to you by Reuters stocks reporters and anchored today by Thyagaraju Adinarayan. Reach him on Messenger to share your thoughts on market moves: rm://


No doubt the German industrial output disappointed this morning and the bigger-than-expected 0.6% drop did add to fears that Europe's biggest economy slipped into recession in Q3.

The DAX however managed to carry on and is now comfortably trading at its highest levels since February 2018, up more than 0.7%. Why is that?

Surely that's mostly due to the trade optimism, but it's also worth noting that the data doesn't mean the whole German economy is going to crash, even though it dampens hopes of a quick recovery of its industrial sector that were fuelled by yesterday's promising data on orders.

Let's see what economists had to say: .

ING: "Industrial production disappoints once again, defying any hopes for a quick rebound of the German economy... a contraction in the third quarter of the entire economy is not yet a done deal. As so often, it will be the export sector, which decides on the fate of the German economy".

UniCredit: "A crash in the German economy is unlikely. There are no early warning signals of such a worst-case scenario. Instead, the story is one about a slight technical recession, stagnation or lacklustre growth at best".

Below here's the DAX reaching Feb 2018 highs:

(Danilo Masoni)



European stocks open higher driven by some strong post-earnings moves, while positive noise from China on "phase one" trade deal is also helping auto and mining stocks.

It's risk-on in Europe with defensive stocks selling off as investors storm back into cyclicals on positive trade headlines.

The pan-European STOXX 600 index is rising 0.4% and has hit a fresh July 2015 high this morning with Germany's export-heavy index DAX 30 (+0.7%) fuelling those gains.

Among single stocks, Vestas Wind, Tate & Lyle, ArcelorMittal and Lufthansa are all rising between 6-9% after reporting results.

(Thyagaraju Adinarayan)



European stocks seem to be heading for a solid open (+0.7%) this morning as headlines from China on trade negotiations with the U.S. is overshadowing the earnings Thursday storm.

The pan-European STOXX 600 index is all set to scale fresh July 2015 peak.

In earnings, German industrial company Siemens expects global economy to weaken in the 12 months after reporting a forecast-beating results. German factory data confirms the downtrend as September output fell more than expected (-0.6%).

In further woes to the sector, the world's largest steelmaker ArcelorMittal warned of weaker demand in its main U.S. and European markets, but shares are seen opening sharply higher on better-than-expected results.

On the bright side, we have Lufthansa printing some good earnings numbers, fuelling the airline's shares (+1.2% premarket).

In dealmaking, LVMH shares in focus after Reuters reports that Tiffany has asked the French luxury giant to raise its $14.5 billion offer, calling the offer "too low".

In the UK: Rolls Royce is seen falling 4% after profit warning, while Sainsbury's profit miss is likely to put shares under pressure.

Here are some headlines to digest ahead the open:

Siemens cautions about tougher 2020 after beating Q4 forecasts

UniCredit quarterly profit up, helped by Italian govt bond reduction

Commerzbank Q3 net profit up 35% in Q3, confirming preliminary earnings

ArcelorMittal takes dimmer view of U.S, Europe steel demand

Deutsche Telekom raises earnings guidance

Siemens cautions about tougher 2020 after beating Q4 forecasts

HeidelbergCement confirms outlook after Q3 results

Tiffany asks LVMH to raise its $14.5 billion offer -sources

Persimmon Sees H2 Volumes Greater Than H1, Reflecting Seasonality

G4S Q3 revenue grows, says reviewing proposals for cash business separation

Rolls Royce sees operating profit at lower end on Trent 1000 issue

German finance watchdog approves new AMS bid for Osram

Sainsbury's profit falls 15% after failure of Asda deal

(Thyagaraju Adinarayan)



European stocks seem to be heading for another flat open as investors stay on the sidelines awaiting updates on the impending U.S.-China "phase one" trade deal.

Financial spreadbetters IG expect London's FTSE to open 4 points lower at 7,393, Frankfurt's DAX to open 8 points lower at 13,172 and Paris' CAC to open 3 points lower at 5,864.

It's earnings Thursday here and so far we've had updates from Commerzbank (profit +35%), Lufthansa (adjusted EBIT beats forecasts), ArcelorMittal (flags weak demand in U.S. and Europe) and Siemens (warns about tough year head).

(Thyagaraju Adinarayan)


(Reporting by Danilo Masoni, Joice Alves, Julien Ponthus and Thyagaraju Adinarayan)