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Herbalife Nutrition Ltd. (HLF)

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    $WBD conversation
    All over Twitter this evening if you search $WBD:
    "5 Stocks Insiders Have Boosted Over the Past 2 Months $ATLO $WBD $BWFG $NRIM $HLF $GLRE"
  • d
    Wondering what Ackerman is thinking right now about HLF.
  • T
    bill ackman ended his relationship with herbalife years ago
  • N
    Todays earnings are a Total Fraud. How come earnings change so dramatically AND if you look at UNAUDITED income its VERY misleading as one end you are saying a worldwide sales of $1335.8M and then you are subtracting Royalty Overrides ($433.8M) + Selling, General, and Administrative Expenses ($454.9) so ACTUAL (even UNAUDITED) income is < $100M and you did not report other operating costs.

    Why Spend so many millions of dollars ($400M+) to buy Carl ICHAN shares just few months ago when you do NOT have money and now report these numbers.

    I earlier did not believe in the MLM/Fraud (Bill Ackman story) but I am starting to believe there must be some truth and this company is just a fraud. I lost so much money believing this management.
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  • S
    (KOD) Price $6 trading 60% UNDER Cash + 4x BIG Phase 3 near readouts for FREE = LIFETIME OPP !!!

  • B
    In a market in turmoil and full of bloated PE's, HLF is a good value add at these prices.
  • B
    Just bought in at $27…hard to find good value out there and this is a great play. I’m not selling until $50.
  • J
    HLF "distributors" = HLF "slaves"
  • S
    This turkey is cooked. Cheers and see ya at zero!!
  • J
    "Carl Icahn Tendered Its Herbalife Shares Into The Co.'s Self-Tender Offer"
    HLF sacrificed the health of its balance sheet to artificially push up its share price, so shareholders and insiders can cash out their positions at high prices, leaving a company with no assets left to be seized in future lawsuits. This looks to be the stage of the party when the sober guests start leaving.
  • ,
    Wow. Carl Icahn not doing so hot. He owned 55 million shares of Hertz at end of 1st quarter. Hertz traded at average of $13.70 during the quarter. Now, Hertz just filed for bankruptcy.

    Is something similar in store for his HLF holdings?
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    Michael Rinstock
    I am still puzzled. How did HLF go from about $60 to $110 with flat revenue and flat net income?
  • M
    Michael Rinstock
    Volume Point for China is -22.5%. Did I read it right?
  • T
    The FTC’s allegations filed in Los Angeles federal court left no doubt that it concluded that Herbalife had been ripping people off: “Consumers have suffered and will continue to suffer substantial monetary loss as a result of [Herbalife’s] violations of Section 5(a) of the FTC Act.” (That's the section that bars "unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce.”)

    FTC Chairwoman Edith Ramirez said after the settlement that "Herbalife is going to have to start operating legitimately." That would mark a real change, she suggested.

    To some extent, perhaps it did. Herbalife's come-on to distributors today says that they can earn money "selling Herbalife products that you buy at a discount" or "sponsoring someone who either sells Herbalife products or purchases them at a discount for their own or household use." It specifically says that distributors "cannot earn money simply for recruiting or sponsoring someone."
  • B
    I'll listen to the CC, but I'm not particularly impressed. These are about the numbers I expected, but with still 2MM extra shares outstanding and $75MM less net equity than I expected. Net profit margin is dropping like a rock, inventory down, PP&E down is disinvestment and milking the company to pay off Carl.

    How much is left in the stock buyback fund? What are the particulars for the S/T debt? Are these guys really the financial jeanusus that Carl said they were?
  • F
    Herbalife Nutrition and Tasly Holdings Group to form HT Innovations LP in the US as a joint Venture.


    To further advance healthier living through good nutrition, premier global nutrition company Herbalife (HLF) today announced it has entered into a framework agreement with Tasly Holding Group, a leading Chinese healthcare corporation. Herbalife Nutrition CEO, Rich Goudis; CFO, John DeSimone; and Chairman of Herbalife China, Dr. Qun Yi Zheng, joined Chairman of Tasly Holding Group, Xijun Yan; Executive Chairman, Kaijing Yan; CFO, Fucai Pei; and General Manager of Tasly’s International Strategic Investment and M&A, Dr. Lei Gao, for the signing ceremony of a framework agreement, which pending approval by the Chinese regulatory agencies, will lead to the formation of a joint venture between Herbalife Nutrition and Tasly in the United States. This joint venture is anticipated to create a conduit to develop and commercialize high-quality consumer health products based on Tasly's deep portfolio of formulations, patents, and clinical studies, while leveraging Herbalife Nutrition’s scientific, regulatory and commercial development expertise. Moreover, Herbalife Nutrition expects its worldwide network of independent distributors to provide an opportunity to bring the joint venture’s products to a global market.
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    Bear of the Day: Herbalife (HLF)
    November 15 2017
    Herbalife (HLF - Free Report) has fallen into the cellar of the Zacks Rank recently as Wall Street investment banks continue to shy away from the network marketer of health and nutrition products.
    After the company reported Q3 results on November 2, and provided guidance for the coming year, SunTrust analysts lowered their 2018 full-year EPS estimate by 8%.
  • B
    It will be interesting to see if HLF pulled the trigger and bought back shares during this selloff. Perhaps they reacquired 5M at $40 instead of 4M at $50.